Controversial opinions on metal

[Bled & Dead]

They're not exactly simple. There are a lot of shifting time sigs and keys, so from a music theory standpoint it can be kinda interesting, while still somehow managing to keep things sounding "pop" at times. It's easy to have arpeggios and mountains of flourishes that SOUND difficult, it's another animal to pass off unconventional structure as standard songwriting.

I'm not a huge Tool fan, I just think they're good at what they do but the PITA is how many people hold them up like the pinnacle of creative/progressive heavy music.

Maybe to an average listener/musician they might seem complex but when I think of technical I think about bands like Spiral Architect. Faster, more complex, crazy time signature changes.....

Tool is just full of fail

 

[EffigyForgotten]

It seems its just as popular to hate on the band to fanboy them.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

Using Spiral Architect as a standard by which other bands are measured for their technical abilities is kind of ridiculous tbh.

 

[Bled & Dead]

Using Spiral Architect as a standard by which other bands are measured for their technical abilities is kind of ridiculous tbh.

Fine Ill lower the standards drastically to Meshuggah.

Tool still cant compete.

 

[Der Morgenstern]

Hey, obnoxious faggot.

 

[SomeGuyDude]

Maybe to an average listener/musician they might seem complex but when I think of technical I think about bands like Spiral Architect. Faster, more complex, crazy time signature changes.....

Tool is just full of fail

Dude that's like saying the fastest guy in the NFL combine is a slow little bitch because Usain Bolt would blast past him. Obviously there's always a band that'll be faster with more complexity.

Also for the record Spiral is just wanky bullshit. It's ALL technicality without giving a fuck about writing songs that have any cohesion to them. Might as well use Behold... the Arctopus if all you care about is how many different scale types the musicians know.

 

[SomeGuyDude]

It seems its just as popular to hate on the band to fanboy them.

^^^^^^^^^^

 

[EffigyForgotten]

Dude that's like saying the fastest guy in the NFL combine is a slow little bitch because Usain Bolt would blast past him. Obviously there's always a band that'll be faster with more complexity.

Also for the record Spiral is just wanky bullshit. It's ALL technicality without giving a fuck about writing songs that have any cohesion to them. Might as well use Behold... the Arctopus if all you care about is how many different scale types the musicians know.

From what I've seen, 90% of the community listens to rap/pop therefore most people don't even know what "technicality" really means, which metal, classical music, jazz, etc are somewhat known for.

 

[Bled & Dead]

Dude that's like saying the fastest guy in the NFL combine is a slow little bitch because Usain Bolt would blast past him. Obviously there's always a band that'll be faster with more complexity.

Also for the record Spiral is just wanky bullshit. It's ALL technicality without giving a fuck about writing songs that have any cohesion to them. Might as well use Behold... the Arctopus if all you care about is how many different scale types the musicians know.

You can call them what you want but I would still listen to either of those bands all day before listenning to Stool. uups i mean tool

 

[Bled & Dead]

Hey, obnoxious faggot.

Fuck off

 

[EffigyForgotten]

Well that's your opinion man, I doubt anyone here gives fuck about your shitty opinion.

Instead of insulting the fans/audience of the band why don't you give a reason to hate them that actually makes sense?

 

[EffigyForgotten]

Hey, obnoxious faggot.

Are you saying this because he mentioned Meshuggah or because he is actually acting like a faggot?

 

[Eligos]

Dude he's just obnoxious. He compares apples to oranges on the basis that they are both fruit, and says that oranges are more citric. No shit.

 

[Bled & Dead]

Well that's your opinion man, I doubt anyone here gives fuck about your shitty opinion.

Instead of insulting the fans/audience of the band why don't you give a reason to hate them that actually makes sense?

You say that as if anyone cares about yours.

You mean a reason other then being boring as fuck and mediocre in their best moments?

And I never insulted their fans. Get your shit straight braniac

 

[SomeGuyDude]

You can call them what you want but I would still listen to either of those bands all day before listenning to Stool. uups i mean tool

Hey Effigy. Remember how I said sometimes older guys will dismiss the shit younger dudes say? This is a fine example. This post is the kind of thing I expect a 12 year old to write, all proud of himself for thinking of "stool".

 

[EffigyForgotten]

Oh I definitely agree, but this forum has quite a few more dumbfucks that insult anyone for listening to "un-true metal"

 

[EffigyForgotten]

Hey Effigy. Remember how I said sometimes older guys will dismiss the shit younger dudes say? This is a fine example. This post is the kind of thing I expect a 12 year old to write, all proud of himself for thinking of "stool".

 

[SomeGuyDude]

Truth there. It's like the internet metal culture has this underbelly of dumb shits who fight to the teeth that they don't like ANYTHING that's not underground and "trve".

If you can find a t-shirt from the band at the mall, these idiots will screech and howl how much they suck. Period.

 

[Bled & Dead]

Who knew all the Tool fanboys would rise up in arms.

 

[EffigyForgotten]

Who knew all the Tool fanboys would rise up in arms.

What makes you think we're fanboys?