Controversial opinions on metal

[CiG]

Tres Hombres is a fucking gem.

 

[The Ozzman]

I agree. I hear from my uncle they put on a killer show too.

I've seen them twice and can confirm this.

 

[EspaDa]

Their first four albums kick ass. Just Got Paid is a real killer tune

 

[CF87]

She's got legs, she knows how to use themmmmm!

 

[no country for old wainds]

i like dreams of eschaton but i hate the angel witch rip off, doesn't work for me.

 

[CiG]

Why are these things considered rip offs instead of influences? Much of the Angel Witch album itself is not entirely original, plenty of Black Sabbath in there.

 

[no country for old wainds]

they stole an exact riff tbf. i wouldn't care at all about that if it worked for me though, but it doesn't and i find it distracting. it's not one of my favourite angel witch songs anyway tbh, ironically i like dreams of eschaton more overall.

 

[CiG]

Which song was the riff from out of curiosity? It went over my head it seems.

 

[Mort Divine]

Angel of Death iirc

 

[no country for old wainds]

yar

partially related: personally i would love manilla road a whole lot more if they removed more or less every single thrashy passage from their discog. they're still possibly in my top 10 trad bands ever though.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

I mean, Metallica stole the Angel of Death riff for For Whom the Bell Tolls as well, the difference is one song is a classic and the other is amazingly bloated.

Manilla Road trying thrash is embarrassing. I'd rather listen to Whitechapel the band than Whitechapel the Manilla Road song.

 

[CiG]

Oh okay hahaha one of my favourite songs by them too, embarrassing.
I'll go compare when I've finished work.

Manilla Road trying thrash is embarrassing. I'd rather listen to Whitechapel the band than Whitechapel the Manilla Road song.

Seriously? I didn't realise that in here, controversial was synonymous with retardation.

 

[rms]

Why do you guys keep bringing up Abyss? Hah. I don't think anyone considers it a good album.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

It's a boring as fuck generic thrash song stretched to 7 minutes where 3~4 would have sufficed. I can't believe some people actually compare that album to 80s Destruction or describe it is technical. Return of the Old Ones is a great song but pretty much the only thing worth a listen on that album.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

Why do you guys keep bringing up Abyss? Hah. I don't think anyone considers it a good album.

Someone else had just mentioned "the first 7" as if they were all of equivalent quality, and I think it has a decent M-A average and stuff. People like it, and they're wrong.

 

[CiG]

Someone else had just mentioned "the first 7" as if they were all of equivalent quality, and I think it has a decent M-A average and stuff. People like it, and they're wrong.

That someone was me and I didn't imply equivalency.

 

[rms]

Metal/Invasion/Abyss/Everything else is clearly on a lesser rung than their top4.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

That someone was me and I didn't imply equivalency.

You said none of the 7 had duds. Point is, it's a respected album and valid to criticize, unlike, say, The Circus Maximus (which I prefer to Crystal Logic tbh).

 

[CiG]

You said none of the 7 had duds. Point is, it's a respected album and valid to criticize, unlike, say, The Circus Maximus (which I prefer to Crystal Logic tbh).

Doesn't mean there isn't a quality fluctuation among my favourite albums.

Edit: Respect for being able to appreciate The Circus Maximus, not many are, including me.
It's an album I've been progressively opening up to.

 

[no country for old wainds]

i like GATES OF FIRE more than a couple of the 'big four'. might even be my second favourite.

'helicon' and 'war in heaven' are easily the best two songs on OUT OF THE ABYSS. that's the manilla road i love.

the closer on 'invasion' is really lovely btw folks. well worth a youtube for those not familiar.