Controversial opinions on metal

[MoSeN]

FOAD isn't metal? Some bravely genuine facts right here.

For the most part it is not.

Not all their stuff are metal, fags.

 

[J.]

And isnt really good metal/non metal either

 

[MoSeN]

The only metal thing about their later stuff would be the shitty production if anything.

 

[The Butt]

Are you brain damaged? Their later output is the most metallic stuff they have put out. They embody the spirit of 80s heavy metal.

 

[Krow]

New era Darkthrone is obviously metal.

I actually much prefer it to their older stuff.

 

[MoSeN]

They embody the spirit of 80s heavy metal.

More like late 80's punk.

You guys are so much fun.

 

[The Butt]

No actually. Wrong.

There are tinges of punk in their sound but to deny they are more metal than anything is to deny fact.

 

[Mort Divine]

The Cult is Alive is much more of punk album that a metal album, but FOAD is definitely a metal album.

 

[The Butt]

The Cult is Alive, you are right on. But one album does not make his claim that "newer Darkthrone isn't metal", or even a claim that "newer Darkthrone is more punk than metal" even remotely valid.

 

[MoSeN]

lol the whole new era Darkthrone is more punk than anything.

 

[EternalMetal]

The Cult is Alive to me sounds like black metal with a heavy crust punk influence (and not the other way around).

 

[CiG]

The Cult is Alive to me sounds like black metal with a heavy crust punk influence (and not the other way around).

Crust Punk? Are you just saying that because the album art looks crusty? Because I don't hear much, if any, Crust in their sound.

I embarrass myself? Your posts here and in the other thread make me feel like I'm dropping some IQ points. You asked which Darkthrone stuff weren't metal like you haven't ever listened to The Cult is Alive, FOAD and everything they made after. However I shouldn't be surprised if you said the stuff was "metal to me" (the dumb poser line you kept embarrassing yourself with). I stopped answering simply because I gave up on your ignorance. At least on the other subject Mort Divine was trying to narrow down a fingerprint for Industrial Metal while there isn't really one for it, but you're just a waste of time.

Edit: Oh btw, I'm going out of town for a few days, so if you've got anything to say before I catch you don't take my silence as whatever stupid you might make out of it in your mind.

There you go again, embarrassing yourself.

 

[EternalMetal]

Crust Punk? Are you just saying that because the album art looks crusty? Because I don't hear much, if any, Crust in their sound.

I think it captures more the essence of the dark dirty heaviness of punk in a way that id say is crusty. It may be cleaner and more riff driven than most crust, but is much more riff driven in a black metal way. It take it either way tbh, hardcore punk or crust punk influenced, but imo it is a bit darker in tone than most hardcore punk ive heard.

 

[CiG]

I think it captures more the essence of the dark dirty heaviness of punk in a way that id say is crusty. It may be cleaner and more riff driven than most crust, but is much more riff driven in a black metal way. It take it either way tbh, hardcore punk or crust punk influenced, but imo it is a bit darker in tone than most hardcore punk ive heard.

I just feel that Crust is a very extreme, intense style whereas new Darkthrone are very moderate.

 

[EternalMetal]

I just feel that Crust is a very extreme, intense style whereas new Darkthrone are very moderate.

And I feel that the toning down of the more extreme and dirty parts of crust punk are due to the Celtic Frost-esque black metal influence. You are thinking crust punk first, whereas im thinking it's black metal first.

 

[CiG]

And I feel that the toning down of the more extreme and dirty parts of crust punk are due to the Celtic Frost-esque black metal influence. You are thinking crust punk first, whereas im thinking it's black metal first.

I'm thinking not Crust Punk at all actually, the Punk I hear in Darkthrone seems to come from bands like Motorhead and all that Japanese Punk that Fenriz is obsessed with.

Sure, there's definitely some similarities with Amebix though.

 

[EternalMetal]

I'm thinking not Crust Punk at all actually, the Punk I hear in Darkthrone seems to come from bands like Motorhead and all that Japanese Punk that Fenriz is obsessed with.

Sure, there's definitely some similarities with Amebix though.

Yea, I hear a lot of Amebix in their sound, though you may be right that they werent particularly being influenced by them. I dont know Fenriz's taste in music, im just going by what I hear.

 

[CiG]

Yea, I hear a lot of Amebix in their sound, though you may be right that they werent particularly being influenced by them. I dont know Fenriz's taste in music, im just going by what I hear.

So am I, I just couldn't be bothered to remember all the names of the Japanese bands.
But knowing what he cites as influences can be a good compass.

 

[J.]

Through the Darkest Hour is easily Solitude Aeturnus' best album.

The first two are just good

 

[CiG]

Through the Darkest Hour is easily Solitude Aeturnus' best album.

The first two are just good

No no, I can't agree with that at all.
Beyond The Crimson Horizon is their grail.