Controversial opinions on metal

[Oblivious Maximus]

Nyktalgia were excellent and I was disappointed to find out they called it day. Both the self-titled and Peisithanatos are prime examples of that style done right. Skjeld is a such great vocalist.

 

[CiG]

I love some Striborg then.

 

[The Butt]

One is better than none. The fact that Nyktalgia sounds a lot like early Burzum rather than like those other bands helps.

Abyssic Hate is total Burzum worship. :/

And Thy Light's full-length may have been shit, I'll give you that, but I adore the demo. There's actually some nice songwriting there. Really immersive.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

lol

That's a fact bro. Everything interesting in 90s black metal had already been done in the 80s.

 

[The Butt]

I knew I'd regret briefly taking you off ignore.

 

[no country for old wainds]

That's a fact bro. Everything interesting in 90s black metal had already been done in the 80s.

bro

 

[CiG]

Give some examples.

 

[CiG]

Shit, this is like a blueprint for the typical 90's sound!

 

[Omni]

Abyssic Hate is total Burzum worship. :/

And Thy Light's full-length may have been shit, I'll give you that, but I adore the demo. There's actually some nice songwriting there. Really immersive.

Abyssic Hate sounds like a bad wannabe band. Nyktalgia actually knows what they're doing and have songwriting ability.

Hundreds of black metal bands try to sound like Burzum. Nyktalgia is one of the few that managed to sound convincing and they also understand how to compose music that makes them more than just a pale imitation.

 

[Baroque]

Also, oh shit, I just realized Lars copied the drum riff from 'One' from the first track on darkness descends.

 

[The Butt]

Abyssic Hate sounds like a bad wannabe band.

Disagreed entirely, I believe Suicidal Emotions is a top-ten black metal album. Minimal yet dynamic songwriting, with excellent vocals and very fitting production.

The song "Depression, Pt. 1" alone destroys 90 percent of black metal imo, and black metal is my favorite genre. I implore you to give the album another go before replying.

 

[CiG]

I need riffs in my Black Metal, I've heard Abyssic Hate before and it's that fuzzy wall-of-sound ritual drums shit if I remember correctly.

Not a riff in sight.

 

[The Butt]

I guess that's just where we split off then.

When "riffs" (in the sense of the word that you are speaking of) are added to black metal (first wave being an exception) I generally lose interest. I love riffy and chuggy thrash, death, etc... but when it comes to black metal give me the trem-picked, chordy, "riffless" stuff all day.

 

[CiG]

You like a thick dose of atmosphere, going by the song you love by Abyssic Hate, which even I can admit has a great fucking atmosphere going on.

 

[The Butt]

Basically, yeah. The more atmospheric and sonically-layered it is, the more I will like it.

 

[CiG]

The only kind of atmospheric quality I can stand in Black Metal is epicness, eg Graveland, The Summoning, bands with that medieval thing going on.

I need rabid, evil riffs!

 

[The Butt]

I enjoy stuff like that, I just connect with the more layered stuff more.

Case in point, even with that song, my favorite part was always the ringing arpeggiated section at the very beginning.

 

[CiG]

I don't mind it in moderation, but I can't listen to a whole album of it.

 

[Cythraul]

Nyktalgia - Peisithanatos

I just decided to check this out and I'm liking it so far. Thanks, buddy.

 

[The Butt]

Without the "Similar Artists" function on Metal Archives, I would never have found them.