Controversial opinions on metal

[Baroque]

Ne Obliviscaris is basically classical music/metal nerd music rolled into one. It's for musicians and is forward thinking imo. Even if you're right and hipsters like it idgaf, I still like them. It's like saying I can't like this Stone IPA because it's hipster approved.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

No, I agree with you there. They aren't hipster at all, they're a prog/metal nerd's kind of band. I don't necessarily have an issue with that. Listening to some Angra right now in fact.

 

[Baroque]

Burzum is very hipster-approved, and Varg was a very image-conscious kind of guy.

You know what's funny though. If being image-concious is what makes you hipster, then those fucks not listening to Ne Obliviscaris because they don't want to be associated with hipsters are being image-concious about it, and therefore being hipsters.

 

[Baroque]

Listening to some Angra right now in fact.

Where should I start with them?

 

[Omni]

You know what's funny though. If being image-concious is what makes you hipster, then those fucks not listening to Ne Obliviscaris because they don't want to be associated with hipsters are being image-concious about it, and therefore being hipsters.

I don't listen to them because I think they don't sound enjoyable.

 

[JontRevolting]

Same I actually bought two of their albums and I found them offensive to my senses, it seems like stuff I would've enjoyed as a 12 year old though, no offence.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

Where should I start with them?

Dunno, I'm not their biggest fan, just an occasional-play band for me. I think many would recommend Holy Land or Temple of Shadows, but Rebirth is my favorite of what I know. Skip the first one at least, not bad but kind of dry and generic compared to their later stuff.

 

[Satanstoenail]

If being image conscious makes you a hipster, then pretty much every person in every band ever is a hipster.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

There are varying degrees of image consciousness. Black metal is the most image conscious.

 

[JontRevolting]

A lot of factors to take into consideration with image as with fans. Look at the folk on here for example, it seems we're all concerned with some kindve image or at the least project one whether we like it or not.

 

[no country for old wainds]

i have never heard this band, but i enjoyed reading this convo

to me 'hipster' is just pitchfork-approved lol. i.e. http://pitchfork.com/features/staff-lists/9772-the-best-metal-albums-of-2015/

it doesn't necessarily guarantee shittiness to be fair.

 

[JontRevolting]

can we not use 'hipster', to me it's more connected to clothing than music.

 

[The Ozzman]

Seriously show me one hipster that listens to Ne Obliviscaris or one Starbucks that plays it. Full of shit. Hipsters listen to shitty indie rock bs with banjos.

There were tons of hipsters at the show when I saw them live. That being said, I enjoy NeO immensely. I didn't want to listen to anything but Citadel when I first got it and when I play it now I just want to put it on repeat. Phenomenal album.

In other news, I helped Omni win an argument.

edit: re: Angra

I have the first two albums and I'm not sold on the band.

 

[Phylactery]

I'm pretty sure almost no one will agree with me on this, but "Jama Pekel" has always been one of my least favourite tracks on Master's Hammer's Ritual.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

That's the only song on the album I'd call crappy, yeah.

EDIT: Checking RYM it's also rated significantly lower than any other song on the album, so I don't think it's controversial. Very one-dimensional and boring.

 

[Omni]

I think it's the most well-known and iconic song and the most accessible, but not the best.

 

[suckerleaf]

I have a buddy that thinks anything that doesn't remotely resemble mid 80's West Coast Thrash is "hipster".

 

[RedStorm]

He's an idiot just like the rest of the people claiming that there are 'metal hipsters'

 

[suckerleaf]

He's an idiot just like the rest of the people claiming that there are 'metal hipsters'

I was overstating it and you kind of seem like a dick.

 

[Master_Yoda77]

Yeah, Pitchfork really loves the new Deafheaven album? Wow, what a big surprise?!