Controversial opinions on metal

[Baroque]

Call it glam hard rock then. It tarnishes metal's name to call it such and it's definitely questionable or else they wouldn't say "glam/heavy/hard rock"

 

[Elric of Melniboné]

There's already enough garbage that's definitely metal, so I don't think that it will really matter in the end.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

Let's worry about prefixed black metal before we worry about glam metal tarnishing metal's good name.

 

[TechnicalBarbarity]

Dressing up and acting like sluts is essentially the antithesis of being metal.

metalz iz not just music, metal iz life bro!

 

[Baroque]

Glam rock is the butt of jokes to this day, and there was a huge counter movement in the metal community back then to separate themselves from glam..

 

[TechnicalBarbarity]

some very good answers below ... i suggest you look through it, mr lovecraft.

https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20110308144042AA1FmCX

 

[Baroque]

Which means nothing other than some people didn't enjoy it or didn't wish to be associated with.

Your reply means nothing as well since I can use the same argument back: just because some who claim to be "metalheads" like it doesn't make it metal

 

[Baroque]

And: My point was merely that people's opinions of its quality or desire to be associated with it doesn't qualify it for being metal. See now?

 

[Baroque]

Read through several answers, there's one guy who does nothing but claim that because things get relabeled over time and in hindsight, we can now "properly" reclassify glam metal as not being metal. However to do so he'd have to deliberately ignore all the sonic trappings that verifiably make glam metal, metal. It shares all the elemental facets of basic traditional metal, but with notable hard rock and punk rock facets incorporated to give it a poppier appeal. The guitar playing, bass playing, and vocals are sonically consistent with trad metal, with poppy flourishes.

It was metal dumbed down, rebranded and made radio friendly to sell to teenage girls. Totally bastardized and mixed with rock and pop. To the point it's not metal anymore.

Songs like "Cum on feel the noize" and "black sabbath" have basically nothing in common other than distorted guitar

And it is telling that many metalheads distanced themselves from it. Next you'll be telling me stuff like limp bizkit is metal even though most of the metal community rejected it. It's not enough to just have a distorted guitar

 

[HamburgerBoy]

Cum on Feel the Noize is a cover track.

 

[Baroque]

Exchange cum on feel the noize with "I wanna rock" and the point stands.

 

[Baroque]

I don't make a habit of listening to any of this style so I don't know wasp's music, but they're not listed as glam pal

You mean mr. Big who wrote "to be with you " and "wild world"? That's a metal band to you?

 

[Baroque]

resorting to a Wikipedia article for one band and mr big's garage days is not exactly making a case for glam metal's existence in my mind. You'll have to show me some musical examples that actually sound metal and glam at the same time. Even if the genre exists, it's minor and not the majority of glam.

 

[Baroque]

The best example I can think of is probably Steel Panther which makes fun of glam as a career..

 

[HamburgerBoy]

What's wrong with I Wanna Rock? It has better riffs than 90% of Symphony X's career.

 

[Baroque]

What's wrong with I Wanna Rock? It has better riffs than 90% of Symphony X's career.

 

[Baroque]

The wasp one is a decent example. Sounds like bastardized Judas Priest but it is metal. Again not listed as glam by metallum, the chorus possibly I guess. The dokken song sounds more like a rush rip off than genuine metal though.

Also this whole wasp thing is a smokescreen to all of the other bands we were talking about that were highly questionable

I've heard that motley crue song dozens of times it's clearly rock in my mind.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

Seriously, I guess the vocals are Geddy Lee-ish in the vaguest way, but otherwise rofl @ the idea that it sounds anything like Rush.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

Symphony X is garbage btw, aside from Paradise Lost.

 

[Baroque]

yeah this entire genre is bullshit and I feel worse for having spent an hour listening to it. I have to go to bed, night.