Controversial opinions on metal

. It was along the lines of they dont consider themselves to be `heavy metal` they see themselves as heavy rock, because of their base in the blues.

That is by definition, rejecting the heavy metal label...

Ozzy being well documented saying it is enough though for that line of thought.

Wrong. He's a singer, his views on the precise genre they fit into is quite irrelevant. Metal can exist without vocals.

So you don't remember anything about these interviews. Not even a rough year?
 
That is by definition, rejecting the heavy metal label...



Wrong. He's a singer, his views on the precise genre they fit into is quite irrelevant. Metal can exist without vocals.

So you don't remember anything about these interviews. Not even a rough year?

It might be by definition but it isnt what THEY said, nor how I said it. Ozzy sung on the songs and helped write them, for you to say that Ozzy`s opinion as to Black Sabbath not being `heavy metal` in his opinion is ludicrous. It is Ozzys opinion, are you saying that Ozzy doesnt know his own opinion?
 
No, I'm saying his opinion isn't credible in this kind of discussion. Not to the degree you're trying to use it.

Especially considering I googled the interview where he rejects the label and his reasoning is just asinine, angry people screaming into a microphone.

Thanks Ozzy you braindead clown, great logic.
 
No, I'm saying his opinion isn't credible in this kind of discussion. Not to the degree you're trying to use it.

Especially considering I googled the interview where he rejects the label and his reasoning is just asinine, angry people screaming into a microphone.

Thanks Ozzy you braindead clown, great logic.

Ozzy isnt stupid, he is a lot wiser than given credit for.
 
I do remember an interview with Ozzy where he slagged off every musician going lol. It was after the Randy Rhoads plane crash and he was obviously upset. He said he was looking for new guitarist and `Gary Moore ( RIP) wouldnt answer my calls, if he had a face like a welders toolbench it would sure be better than the one he has now ` apparently Moore was hunting London for him after that lol. He said Ritchie Blackmore is cool as `all he likes is big tits`. Ozzys interviews are always entertaining.
 
Again I think I've said this before but angry people screaming into a microphone is more a hardcore punk thing than metal. Just throwing that out there.
 
Again I think I've said this before but angry people screaming into a microphone is more a hardcore punk thing than metal. Just throwing that out there.

Yes it is, but I think Ozzy is meaning the metal ones that do it also, and they do and I agree with him saying that.
 
You know, I only said that in my opinion I dont think Sabbath are ` heavy metal` and like hours later the battle rages on. I have to hand it to you guys, you cant get away with anything in here lol
 
Yes it is, but I think Ozzy is meaning the metal ones that do it also, and they do and I agree with him saying that.
Why don't you post the article and we'll decide for ourselves? Or are you too lazy? The other articles while you're at it with Iommi as well. It's easy to just say "I read it somewhere"
 
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Maybe it was, but now it's very much a part of multiple metal genres.

Not saying it isn't but I associate it more with hardcore punk bands or the kind that focused on pure aggression and Raw brutality. Most metal bands who scream seem to have more of a singing aspect to them. If you wanna get right down to it just screaming into a microphone with no element of singing is more of a Power Electronics thing (See Whitehouse and Sutcliffe Jugend).
 
You know, I only said that in my opinion I dont think Sabbath are ` heavy metal` and like hours later the battle rages on. I have to hand it to you guys, you cant get away with anything in here lol

This can happen on almost any forum really. I've seen this happen a lot.