Controversial opinions on metal

[Internally Deformed]

It annoys me how bands think that when another genre comes along that's more popular than the one they started in, they can just get a haircut and change their sound and nobody's going to be pissed off and everybody's going to love it. Has that ever actually worked?

 

[Elric of Melniboné]

It annoys me how bands think that when another genre comes along that's more popular than the one they started in, they can just get a haircut and change their sound and nobody's going to be pissed off and everybody's going to love it. Has that ever actually worked?

...becomes...



...goes on to sell millions of albums and acts like their early era never happened.

 

[MrTagoMago]

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...goes on to sell millions of albums and acts like their early era never happened.

I still feel in some way they actually got worse.

 

[Internally Deformed]

I still feel in some way they actually got worse.

This.

Although you're right, that is one example where it actually worked out for them.

 

[TechnicalBarbarity]

well that's because "old Pantera" didnt even really have a fanbase and where nowhere near being popular. I don't remember anybody listening to that shit. But Slayer, Sepultura and Metallica already had huuuuge fanbases when they decided to chase the trend.

 

[MrTagoMago]

well that's because "old Pantera" didnt even really have a fanbase and where nowhere near being popular. I don't remember anybody listening to that shit. But Slayer, Sepultura and Metallica already had huuuuge fanbases when they decided to chase the trend.

I wasn't around at the time so I often had to wonder how well known they were back in the day.

 

[TechnicalBarbarity]

most Pantera fans from the 90's didnt even know they had albums predating CFH, lol.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

the first half of LOAD is uniformly better than virtually everything on the alternately tryhard/trynothardenough cash-in that is the black album.

Nah, Wherever I May Roam and My Friend of Misery are better than most of those tracks (especially 2x4 and The House Jack Built).

 

[Internally Deformed]

well that's because "old Pantera" didnt even really have a fanbase and where nowhere near being popular. I don't remember anybody listening to that shit. But Slayer, Sepultura and Metallica already had huuuuge fanbases when they decided to chase the trend.

Yeah, true. Lesson: only sell out if you haven't already sold out.

 

[EspaDa]

In Flames also suffered Meallica syndrome, though their newer albums aren't the best selling ones.

 

[The Butt]

Black Album is fuckin' garbage, one of the most traumatizing albums to be released during its day.

fyp

Again, Load is decent Sabbath worship. It's not a good Metallica album, but it's a good album on its own merits. I guarantee if a different band released that very same album it would be nearly universally praised.

 

[no country for old wainds]

Nah, Wherever I May Roam and My Friend of Misery are better than most of those tracks (especially 2x4 and The House Jack Built).

i dig the '2x4' climax around 4 minutes and i'd love 'the house jack built' if it WAS 4 minutes and the stupid shit was erased, but i guess i accept this counter. 'wherever i may roam' is probably objectively the best song on there if not my personal favourite - one of the reasons i said 'virtually'. 'my friend of misery' is a weird one, but pretty likeable in its tongue-in-cheek way i suppose. aside from the section at 3:15-4:50 and the way the chorus transitions back into the opening riff, i like it more conceptually than in reality - the chorus itself and the last couple mins etc are pretty dull. but maybe i'm just the kind of person the song is talking about lol

should point out this was THE album that opened the floodgates for me, the single most revelatory musical experience of my life, so it's hard to be objective especially when every time i revisit it is like a reminder of my growing desensitisation. it's a pretty complex relationship.

 

[Krow]

I wish Pantera weren't so afraid of their redneck fan base to rerelease those old albums. I'd love to have decent hard copies.

 

[The Butt]

Power Metal was actually pretty fun.

 

[CiG]

Can't be worse than 36 Chambers.

Weird comparison.

 

[TechnicalBarbarity]

@rusty water

 

[rusty water]

@rusty water

hahaha thats really funny thanks for that comparison. I am not slandering Hetfield btw or saying he is `cowardly`, he isnt, he just looks like him hahaha

 

[MrTagoMago]

Weird comparison.

It was just the first album that came to mind. I remember trying to give rap and hip hop a real chance and everyone said this was the best rap album ever. I found it very underwhelming.

 

[Yerfdaug]

Can't be worse than 36 Chambers.

Lol wut?
That's one of the best albums of the 90s, rap, or otherwise.

 

[Internally Deformed]

Just tried listening to it and it's way too minimal to hold one's attention for long.