Controversial opinions on metal

[MrTagoMago]

What's every one here think of Ratos de Porão?

 

[CiG]

I agree about Celtic Frost being a weird anomaly of rock music, but it's hard to ignore that some of their riff styles come from bands that are either metal or hard rock that helped to form metal.

 

[EchoForever]

I liked them better as Hellhammer
(me right now actually)

 

[The Ozzman]

Apparently Trump just implied that it might be a good idea for second amendment supporters to assassinate Hilary Clinton.

His implication was that 2A supporters get out and vote obviously. The media spins shit out of control with him.

 

[Internally Deformed]

His implication was that 2A supporters get out and vote obviously. The media spins shot out of control with him.

Pretty sure the comment was more what you can do if she was elected, rather than what you can to prevent her being elected:

“If she gets to pick her judges, nothing you can do, folks. Although the second amendment people, maybe there is, I don’t know. But I’ll tell you what, that will be a horrible day.”

Given how poor a speaker Trump is though, his actual meaning does tend to be a little vague.

 

[CiG]

He was making a joke. He does that.

 

[Internally Deformed]

Yeah he was, but there are certain jokes you don't get to make when running for president. The fact that his PR team are trying to spin it like he actually meant what Oz thought is proof that even they think he overstepped the line.

 

[CiG]

It's hardly worth mentioning in comparison to Hillary's closet of skeletons. Pretty much diversionary bollocks that only leftists care about.

Oh he said a mean/crude thing, lets milk that for a week because yolo #DNC4LYFEBRO.

 

[Internally Deformed]

Pretty sure that it's the first time any presidential candidate as ever suggested that their opponent be assassinated, humorously or otherwise. It would be interesting to see how much bigger a shit storm this would have been had Hilary said it (or made pretty much any of the fuck ups Trump has made over the course of his campaign).

I don't really want to get into another Hilary vs Trump debate, but one thing I'll add that I think is significant is that the Republicans and right wing media have known for 8 years who the likely next Democrat candidate would be. That's a lot of time for Hilary to be placed under a level of scrutiny no other candidate has ever been subjected to, so it's inevitable some shit would surface. Believing anybody else - Democrat or Republican - would have fared any better over that timescale is IMO a naive underestimation of what shitty self-interested people top level politicians are in general (which isn't an argument for recruiting an even bigger shithead of an evil Billionare moron, before you suggest that).

 

[CiG]

It would be interesting to see how much bigger a shit storm this would have been had Hilary said it (or made pretty much any of the fuck ups Trump has made over the course of his campaign).

Really? Look at all the ridiculous stuff she's already done that nobody but the right really talks about, you think a joke about gun owners killing Trump would cause waves? Please.
Some left-wing British guy already tried, albeit weakly, to shoot Trump and another guy, some retard activist, already rushed Trump's stage to assault him.

Again, this is just candy floss politics. It's pointless, Trump is scum, but c'mon...

But as usual poor ol' Hillary, she was clearly forced to become a career politician and make tons of horrible mistakes, how dare people notice that.

 

[CiG]

Donald Trump is so economically illiterate he could pass for a democrat.

 

[Internally Deformed]

Really? Look at all the ridiculous stuff she's already done that nobody but the right really talks about, you think a joke about gun owners killing Trump would cause waves? Please.

This is pretty obviously untrue if you think about it. Trump's whole appeal is that he can say whatever the fuck he wants and get away with it, which even I find to be a relief given how most political dialogue has turned into a charade of simperingly inoffensive minority pandering. The fact that he gets to play by different rules is his strength, so if you deny that then you're also denying him the one thing he actually has going for him.

Some left-wing British guy already tried, albeit weakly, to shoot Trump and another guy, some retard activist, already rushed Trump's stage to assault him.

Yeah that was pretty pathetic, lol. But seeing as Hilary had nothing to do with it it isn't really relevant.

But as usual poor ol' Hillary, she was clearly forced to become a career politician and make tons of horrible mistakes, how dare people notice that.

I'm not trying to elicit your sympathy for Hilary - by all means continue hating her. But when you reflect upon her long list of supposedly heinous crimes, factor into your judgement that we would probably never have known about most of them if she hadn't been such a prominent target for such a long time. That in itself doesn't mitigate their severity, but it also makes one wonder just how much shit could have been dredged up on any other candidate had they been so closely watched over such a long time period. She has been more thoroughly exposed, but at least we know the very worst about her as a result.

 

[MrTagoMago]

Lol at the idea Trump just gets away with everything he says and nobody makes a big fuss.

 

[Internally Deformed]

Lol at the idea Trump just gets away with everything he says and nobody makes a big fuss.

The point isn't that people don't make a fuss about it, it's that it doesn't hurt his polling (at least not until recently). The guy can do an impression of a retarded person, suggest his opponent be assassinated and ask a foreign power to hack Clinton's email account (these are just off the top of my head) and he's still in the running. It's actually impressive that he can get away with what he gets away with.

 

[MrTagoMago]

The point isn't that people don't make a fuss about it, it's that it doesn't hurt his polling (at least not until recently). The guy can do an impression of a retarded person, suggest his opponent be assassinated and ask a foreign power to hack Clinton's email account (these are just off the top of my head) and he's still in the running. It's actually impressive that he can get away with what he gets away with.

I've seen democrats get away with much worse tbh. I don't get why you don't think a Democrat wouldnt.

 

[Internally Deformed]

Give me some examples.

(I also don't even think another Republican would - it's got nothing to do with Republican v Democrat)

 

[MrTagoMago]

Give me some examples.

(I also don't even think another Republican would - it's got nothing to do with Republican v Democrat)

Actually can we not have the political talk here? I'll just say your right so we can move on back to music discussion.

 

[The Ozzman]

Yea. This isn't controversial opinion on politics. Take this shit out of here.

 

[EspaDa]

Fuck politics, fuck the USA talk, who the hell cares who will be your president?

 

[rusty water]

The definition of heavy metal is - a type of highly amplified harsh-sounding rock music with a strong beat, characteristically using violent or fantastic imagery. Agreed??
Also - Very loud, brash rock music, often with shouted, violent lyrics.