Controversial opinions on metal

[Talos of Atmora]

It's a cliche that is often not borne out - tons of BM bands have interesting and clearly audible bass parts. In fact I'd say bass is more important in BM than it is in dm or thrash, where the bass line is usually identical to whatever the guitar is playing and therefore almost indistinguishable.

Yes, especially on the track I mentioned. It really sounds menacing with the sound they had on Under a Funeral Moon.

 

[MrTagoMago]

That doesn't really explain why you don't like Darkthrone because it's a pretty good feature in their classic era.

Well with Second wave Black metal I noticed a lot of it feels weightless to me so that's what I was thinking.

 

[Talos of Atmora]

Well with Second wave Black metal I noticed a lot of it feels weightless to me so that's what I was thinking.

Hmm...you know what? I could actually see that being the case when someone might listen to Emperor.

 

[MrTagoMago]

It's a cliche that is often not borne out - tons of BM bands have interesting and clearly audible bass parts. In fact I'd say bass is more important in BM than it is in dm or thrash, where the bass line is usually identical to whatever the guitar is playing and therefore almost indistinguishable.

I like the use of bass on the album Energetic disassembly but Ive seen people complain about the fact you can hear it. The Japanese band Doom had an excellent and innovative bassist.

 

[MrTagoMago]

Hmm...you know what? I could actually see that being the case when someone might listen to Emperor.

Emperor actually is a better example of a band who I feel this way about.

 

[Talos of Atmora]

Emperor actually is a better example of a band who I feel this way about.

I think it's a combination of the the guitar tone and the keys that could throw someone off. I mean, I like it but still, I've heard that complaint from others before and I can see what they mean in that regard.

 

[Internally Deformed]

I like the use of bass on the album Energetic disassembly but Ive seen people complain about the fact you can hear it. The Japanese band Doom had an excellent and innovative bassist.

Yeah it is a little annoying on that album though. Obliveon get it about right IMO.

 

[Internally Deformed]

Enough with the Emperor sacrilege already.

 

[Talos of Atmora]

@The Ozzman See? Intelligent discourse is fun too.

Seriously though, I don't agree with all of Bathory's music being the same. There are clearly audible differences between the tracks Elric posted.

 

[Talos of Atmora]

Enough with the Emperor sacrilege already.

Good lord, man, I said I liked the band's material. I just want don't want to totally shut someone down when they have a differing opinion.

 

[The Ozzman]

@The Ozzman See? Intelligent discourse is fun too.

It is when you aren't drunk

 

[MrTagoMago]

I think it's a combination of the the guitar tone and the keys that could throw someone off. I mean, I like it but still, I've heard that complaint from others before and I can see what they mean in that regard.

Yeah its not a problem I have with Darkthrone or Burzum but I recall having it with Emperor and Immortal from what I remember.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

Anyone that complains about bass on a Watchtower album can die in a fire.

 

[Talos of Atmora]

Anyone that complains about bass on a Watchtower album can die in a fire.

Now, that I can agree with.

 

[Elric of Melniboné]

I should check out a Watchtower album for "W" in that ABC challenge. I loved the songs that I heard years ago when I was hanging out at a friend's house. Thanks for the reminder.

 

[Internally Deformed]

Anyone that complains about bass on a Watchtower album can die in a fire.

Bass is just an annoying brown sounding inaudible guitar. We should just get rid of them already and replace them with chapman sticks.

 

[MrTagoMago]

Bass is just an annoying brown sounding inaudible guitar. We should just get rid of them already and replace them with chapman sticks.

Not going to flame you because I know you're joking.

 

[Internally Deformed]

Not going to flame you because I know you're joking.

No but srsly chapman sticks are awesome:

 

[Talos of Atmora]

No but srsly chapman sticks are awesome:

As a prog fan, I agree.

 

[EternalMetal]

Anyone who thinks bass should be eliminated entirely from a genre of music is wrong. And also I dont think ive ever seen an argument made about black metal's need to obscure the bass guitar. I saw a black metal band a while ago that didnt have a bassist, and my main critique of them is that they would have sounded much better with a bass guitar. I dont remember what the band was called (it was at a YOB show in NY earlier this year), but they didnt make me think that black metal would be better off without a bassist. Are there any really good black metal releases that dont have a bass guitar?