Controversial opinions on metal

[MrTagoMago]

Krautrock is not era-defined. It's merely German electronic/experimental rock music.

A bunch of Germans could start a krautrock band tomorrow.

Generally it does refer to bands from the 70s though, but most importantly it doesn't refer to any German band however at the same time much like NWOBHM while the band's share certain aspects their is really no uniform sound to call these genres.

 

[CiG]

Generally it does refer to bands from the 70s though, but most importantly it doesn't refer to any German band however at the same time much like NWOBHM while the band's share certain aspects their is really no uniform sound to call these genres.

NWOBHM is just any British heavy metal band active around the late 70's and early 80's. It's something that expired. Krautrock isn't the same or even similar.

 

[rusty water]

Ive never liked the term `Heavy Metal`, I think it degrades the music. I have always thought it seems slightly mocking of it.

 

[MrTagoMago]

NWOBHM is just any British heavy metal band active around the late 70's and early 80's. It's something that expired. Krautrock isn't the same or even similar.

Ozzy solo isn't considered NWOBHM. Both are similar in that neither are genres.

 

[Phylactery]

Ive never liked the term `Heavy Metal`, I think it degrades the music. I have always thought it seems slightly mocking of it.

I like it personally. There has always been something cool and visceral about saying or writing "death metal".

 

[MrTagoMago]

Ive never liked the term `Heavy Metal`, I think it degrades the music. I have always thought it seems slightly mocking of it.

I think it sounds like it was meant to sound as if it was a level above hard rock in a literal sense. I have more issue with the genre title 'harsh noise'

 

[Caecius]

I've never liked the term "Extreme Metal" -- makes me feel like a douchebag. I just say I like metal and random person says "hey me too, did you hear the new Five Finger Death Punch?"...walk away.

 

[MrTagoMago]

I like it personally. There always been something cool and visceral about saying or writing "death metal".

First time I heard the term death metal was from a kid who said Slipknot was death metal and said they were the only death metal band. At the time I thought it was a term he made up because I didn't think that sounded right. Now ofcourse I love saying death metal even if it's not my favorite genre.

 

[Phylactery]

A few people on here have a problem with the word "extreme" and I don't know why. Maybe it's because of where I live and it's not a term commonly used. I certainly don't run into those kids saying shit like "that was totally extreme dude!" if that's what you mean by douchebaggery.

It's a fine descriptor that encapsulates many genres of metal well and I have no issue using it as such.

 

[CiG]

Ozzy solo isn't considered NWOBHM. Both are similar in that neither are genres.

Because Ozzy wasn't "new" nor part of a "wave" he was already a staple of heavy metal, just like Judas Priest who also aren't considered a NWOBHM band.

 

[rusty water]

I like it personally. There always been something cool and visceral about saying or writing "death metal".

Aye, I like the `death` part of the description but personally would prefer a more suitable noun at the end of it, one that gives it a more artistic or respecting title.

 

[CiG]

 

[Phylactery]

First time I heard the term death metal was from a kid who said Slipknot was death metal and said they were the only death metal band. At the time I thought it was a term he made up because I didn't think that sounded right. Now ofcourse I love saying death metal even if it's not my favorite genre.

Death metal is for poseurs, Slipknot is the real shit.

 

[MrTagoMago]

I've never liked the term "Extreme Metal" -- makes me feel like a douchebag. I just say I like metal and random person says "hey me too, did you hear the new Five Finger Death Punch?"...walk away.

I think it's useful for grouping the more extreme forms of metal from the more traditional stuff but I don't see it used very often.

Because Ozzy wasn't "new" nor part of a "wave" he was already a staple of heavy metal, just like Judas Priest who also aren't considered a NWOBHM band.

Do you think Krautrock is a genre?

 

[CiG]

Do you think Krautrock is a genre?

Broadly speaking, yes. In the same way zeuhl is.

 

[MrTagoMago]

Broadly speaking, yes. In the same way zeuhl is.

So Amon Duul II, Popular Vuh, and Tangerine dream all play the same kinda music? OK then :/

 

[Krow]

I've never liked the term "Extreme Metal" -- makes me feel like a douchebag. I just say I like metal and random person says "hey me too, did you hear the new Five Finger Death Punch?"...walk away.

Reminds me of a guy I met at a gas station talking to me about how hard it was to find metal shows around here and how far he had to travel to see Mayhem and some douchebros came up behind us and started talking about Mayhem Festival getting canceled. Blech.

 

[CiG]

So Amon Duul II, Popular Vuh, and Tangerine dream all play the same kinda music? OK then :/

So Autopsy, At The Gates and Suffocation all play the same kinda music? OK then. :/

 

[MrTagoMago]

So Autopsy, At The Gates and Suffocation all play the same kinda music? OK then. :/

I only listen to one of those but I'd assume they have more common characteristics than the ones I mentioned.

 

[CiG]

I only listen to one of those but I'd assume they have more common characteristics than the ones I mentioned.

Listen to them and get back to me. But the point is, death metal is a much more refined genre and krautrock is much more loosely defined.
Take hip hop as an example, there are hip hop artists that sound worlds apart from something classic like N.W.A. and even the same thing could be said about progressive rock.