Controversial opinions on metal

[CiG]

Trespass >

 

[MrTagoMago]

On the whole yeah if you include all related sub-genres that aren't prog metal. imo some of the classic prog rock bands, especially Camel and Genesis, are pretty fuckin bland though.

I havent really listened to Genesis much though to be fair i dont think ive really givdn them a fair chance. Ive never listened to Camel even though ive known of them for a while. Actually most of what i call my favorite prog rock artists probably wouldnt count as prog to most. That said I do love Van Der Graaf Generator, Gentle giant, Yes, Soft Machine, and Rush.

 

[Elric of Melniboné]

What are these prog rock bands that wouldn't count as prog rock to most people?

 

[CiG]

Probably krautrock.

 

[MrTagoMago]

What are these prog rock bands that wouldn't count as prog rock to most people?

The krautrock bands as CIG said but also stuff like Frank Zappa, Magma, and The Residents.

 

[EchoForever]

post punk is the superior genre

 

[CiG]

Hard to argue with that.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

Nah, post-punk is often too pretentious and repetitive.

 

[MrTagoMago]

post punk is the superior genre
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Better than actual punk tbh.

Nah, post-punk is often too pretentious and repetitive.

Controversial opinion. The word pretentious should never be used to describe music.

 

[EchoForever]

Nah, post-punk is often too pretentious and repetitive.

what post punk album have you listened to, if any at all

 

[HamburgerBoy]

There are plenty I enjoy, but there's a large wing of crap too. Hex Enduction Hour is one of the worst non-metal albums I've ever heard.

 

[MrTagoMago]

There are plenty I enjoy, but there's a large wing of crap too. Hex Enduction Hour is one of the worst non-metal albums I've ever heard.

Theres a large wing of crap from pretty much any genre.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

I mean it's a whole sub-sub-style of post-punk that tries its hardest to be crap, try-hard art-school garbage with no riffs. "Zolo" stuff, I enjoy. Outsider experimental stuff like Pere Ubu, I enjoy. Punchy political bands that are maybe a bit repetitive but to the point like Au Pairs and Gang of Four, I enjoy. Artsy stuff that's actually more progressively composed like Dog Faced Hermans, I enjoy. The Fall can fuck off, less is not more when you regularly have several minute songs.

 

[CiG]

Nah, post-punk is often too pretentious and repetitive.

I can't relate to this characterisation at all.

 

[MrTagoMago]

I mean it's a whole sub-sub-style of post-punk that tries its hardest to be crap, try-hard art-school garbage with no riffs. "Zolo" stuff, I enjoy. Outsider experimental stuff like Pere Ubu, I enjoy. Punchy political bands that are maybe a bit repetitive but to the point like Au Pairs and Gang of Four, I enjoy. Artsy stuff that's actually more progressively composed like Dog Faced Hermans, I enjoy. The Fall can fuck off, less is not more when you regularly have several minute songs.

Ive never listened to The fall but theres more to music than riffs.

 

[alex76]

99.9% of punk in all its forms sucks!

 

[HamburgerBoy]

I can't relate to this characterisation at all.

Not that these guys are much like The Fall, but:



Metronome drumming, uber-repetitive bassline that rarely changes, songs may be short individually but a full album is nearly intolerable. There's a lot of post-punk like this.

Ive never listened to The fall but theres more to music than riffs.

Not in rock-based music.

 

[MrTagoMago]

Not that these guys are much like The Fall, but:



Metronome drumming, uber-repetitive bassline that rarely changes, songs may be short individually but a full album is nearly intolerable. There's a lot of post-punk like this.



Not in rock-based music.

Even in rock based music theres more to it than just riffs.

 

[MrTagoMago]

99.9% of punk in all its forms sucks!

Post punk is hardly even punk for the most part.

 

[CiG]

Post-punk intentionally uses repetition. So that doesn't really convince me.