Controversial opinions on metal

[CiG]

It might not be as controversial here as it has been for me irl I suppose.

 

[The Ozzman]

Majesty and Decay > Mortal Throne of Nazarene

Am I doing it right? I created this thread after all....

 

[Talos of Atmora]

1. Exodus, do you like them, what's your favorite album, what are your thoughts on the first two Zetro albums?
Yeah, I like them. Fabulous Disaster and Bonded by Blood are probably my two favorites by them. Zetro's first two were pretty good. Fabulous Disaster, of course, is my favorite of the two.

2. First two Testament albums, what do you think?
Awesome stuff. It's some of my favorite material by the band.

3. Alder-era Fates Warning in general?
The Alder era isn't bad at all. No Exit, Perfect Symmetry, Darkness in a Different Light and Theories of Flight are all excellent albums. Granted, I prefer the Arch era but still...

4. Dream Theater in general?
A fantastic progressive metal band that became blinded by ludicrous excess once Moore left the band. I liked Metropolis Pt. II but after that, each album was really inconsistent. Even more so when Portnoy left.

5. Virgin Steele, where do they rank in your metal pantheon?
Pretty high. Don't know where I'd put them exactly. I think their '80s material is a bit inconsistent in comparison to their '90s work due to them not knowing whether they were going to be epic heavy metal or party rock. That being said, I still like Guardians of the Flame and Noble Savage (their first essential release, in my opinion). The '90s stuff kicks ass though.

6. Ares Kingdom, where do they rank in your metal pantheon?
Didn't listen to a single track by them until you mentioned them in this questionnaire. I started listening to Return to Dust a short while ago and it's pretty good so far. I will listen further.

7. Place the following doom metal bands in order of preference: Candlemass, Pagan Altar, Pentagram, Saint Vitus, Solitude Aeturnus, Trouble

1. Candlemass
2. Solitude Aeturnus
3. Saint Vitus
4. Trouble
5. Pagan Altar
6. Pentagram

8. Place the following thrash metal bands in order of preference: Artillery, Dark Angel, Demolition Hammer, Exhorder, Flotsam and Jetsam, Holy Terror, Sabbat (UK)

1. Artillery
2. Demolition Hammer
3. Dark Angel
4. Flotsam and Jetsam
5. Sabbat
6. Holy Terror
7. Exhorder

 

[no country for old wainds]

1. Exodus, do you like them, what's your favorite album, what are your thoughts on the first two Zetro albums
2. First two Testament albums, what do you think?
3. Alder-era Fates Warning in general
4. Dream Theater in general
5. Virgin Steele, where do they rank in your metal pantheon?
6. Ares Kingdom, where do they rank in your metal pantheon?
7. Place the following doom metal bands in order of preference: Candlemass, Pagan Altar, Pentagram, Saint Vitus, Solitude Aeturnus, Trouble
8. Place the following thrash metal bands in order of preference: Artillery, Dark Angel, Demolition Hammer, Exhorder, Flotsam and Jetsam, Holy Terror, Sabbat (UK)

this should've been subtler, most of these are obviously loaded. i wish i could answer more of them, you should throw out some more imho

1) you know i likes me some exodus. fav songs are 'deliver us to evil', 'piranha' and 'fabulous disaster' - can't remember the second album well at all.

2, 3, 4) mostly not informed enough to say. i like no exit and i reckon i'd be quite receptive toward dream theater these days. used to think of THE LEGACY as being good at what it was but kinda unnotable identity wise, but i haven't heard it in a long while. don't think i've ever heard the sophomore.

5) only heard the heaven and hell albums, not close to being favourites of mine but i like them to a 3.5 sorta level. not sure why they're in this test as they don't seem particularly in crowd or out crowd.

6) i recall thinking they could be rly good if they cut out all the excess fat. kinda like recent vektor actually. about a 3 star band.

7) peak level: trouble (5), pentagram (5), vitus (5), candlemass (5), pagan altar (4).
overall: vitus (4.5), candlemass (4), trouble (4), pagan altar (4), pentagram (3.5).

haven't heard solitude aeturnus in ages. don't mostly care for the later trouble stuff you like, it's probably better written if anything though, just in a style (or styles) i get nothing out of. all six of these bands are very in-crowd friendly, no?

8) this seems like a better test. holy terror are a 4, dark angel and dem ham are both 3-3.5 sorta territory on their first two, f&j's debut is a 3, sabbat's albums are a 3 and 2.5. been too long since i heard exhorder or artillery but would've had them around 2.5-3 level back in t' day.

 

[no country for old wainds]

Possible controversial opinion:

Mortal Throne of Nazarene > Onward to Golgotha.

it's definitely controversial but also blatantly correct

 

[The Ozzman]

It's not correct but okay

 

[Mort Divine]

1. Exodus, do you like them, what's your favorite album, what are your thoughts on the first two Zetro albums

They're solid and recognize they're good, just never feel the need to listen to them. Bonded By Blood was the album I listened to most when I did listen, though the early Zetro albums are solid.

2. First two Testament albums, what do you think?

Testament is boring as fuck.

3. Alder-era Fates Warning in general

Not as good as Arch era, but still generally not bad

4. Dream Theater in general

Talented, but fucking dull

5. Virgin Steele, where do they rank in your metal pantheon?

Their stretch of albums from The Marriage of Heaven and Hell - Part One through The House of Atreus: Act II fucking rule. Great band during those years, but wew did they get shitty lately. Early stuff isn't awful. If only counting the 90s/early 00s output then one of my favorite heavy metal bands, but career as a whole brings them down a lot.

6. Ares Kingdom, where do they rank in your metal pantheon?

Probably my favorite modern death metal band.

7. Place the following doom metal bands in order of preference: Candlemass, Pagan Altar, Pentagram, Saint Vitus, Solitude Aeturnus, Trouble

Saint Vitus, Candlemass, Pentagram, Trouble, Pagan Altar, Solitude Aeternus

8. Place the following thrash metal bands in order of preference: Artillery, Dark Angel, Demolition Hammer, Exhorder, Flotsam and Jetsam, Holy Terror, Sabbat (UK)

Holy Terror
Artillery
Sabbat
Dark Angel
Demolition Hammer
Flotsam and Jetsam
Exhorder

 

[no country for old wainds]

i think mort just failed the test lol

i'm pretty much indifferent to onward to golgotha, that alone should exile me from the in crowd forever.

 

[TechnicalBarbarity]

Not really controversial, but Martin van Drunen > John Tardy. Two of the best though imo.

Evil Chuck is still tops for me as far as death metal vocalists go.

 

[Mort Divine]

i think mort just failed the test lol

i'm pretty much indifferent to onward to golgotha, that alone should exile me from the in crowd forever.

can an unashamed carly rae jepsen fan really be some 'metal in crowd' anyways?

 

[no country for old wainds]

i argued in favour of beyonce in that same thread and i'm the high priest, so... probably yes

 

[The Ozzman]

i think mort just failed the test lol

i'm pretty much indifferent to onward to golgotha, that alone should exile me from the in crowd forever.

Yeah I was going to quote him on how bad his taste has devolved over the years but you beat me to it

 

[Mort Divine]

Yeah I was going to quote him on how bad his taste has devolved over the years but you beat me to it

my top 10 artists on my old last.fm account from like 2005

Pain of Salvation
Dream Theater
Death
Iron Maiden
Iced Earth
Falconer
Megadeth
AFI
Ayreon
Blind Guardian

doesn't even resemble anything i listen to now

 

[The Ozzman]

my top 10 artists on my old last.fm account from like 2005

Pain of Salvation
Dream Theater
Death
Iron Maiden
Iced Earth
Falconer
Megadeth
AFI
Ayreon
Blind Guardian

doesn't even resemble anything i listen to now

How does this prove me wrong? 2005 cool story bro

 

[Mort Divine]

How does this prove me wrong? 2005 cool story bro

no real need to prove anything, just thought i'd show it

 

[The Ozzman]

no real need to prove anything, just thought i'd show it

Lol ok

 

[Talos of Atmora]

no real need to prove anything

Then what was the point of showing it as a response to his other post?

 

[CiG]

@Mort Divine just showed proof that his taste hasn't devolved but rather gotten much better, imo.

 

[Phylactery]

1. Exodus, do you like them, what's your favorite album, what are your thoughts on the first two Zetro albums
I only know Bonded by Blood, which is good/great, but not a thrash favourite of mine.

2. First two Testament albums, what do you think?
Good, not great.

3. Alder-era Fates Warning in general
I can't really comment, I've only heard a few songs off No Exit and Perfect Symmetry

4. Dream Theater in general
Abhorrent. My closest friend is obsessed so I have unfortunately endured most of their material.

5. Virgin Steele, where do they rank in your metal pantheon?
Haven't heard anything by them.

6. Ares Kingdom, where do they rank in your metal pantheon?
I've only heard Incendiary, which is good.

7. Place the following doom metal bands in order of preference: Candlemass, Pagan Altar, Pentagram, Saint Vitus, Solitude Aeturnus, Trouble
Candlemass > Solitude Aeturnus > Trouble > Saint Vitus > Pagan Altar > Pentagram

8. Place the following thrash metal bands in order of preference: Artillery, Dark Angel, Demolition Hammer, Exhorder, Flotsam and Jetsam, Holy Terror, Sabbat (UK)
Artillery > Holy Terror > Dark Angel > Demolition Hammer > Sabbat > Exhorder
(I haven't heard any Flotsam and Jetsam)

 

[The Ozzman]

@Mort Divine just showed proof that his taste has devolved

Yep