Controversial opinions on metal

[The Ozzman]

I mean, if Despise the Sun had been a full length, I would think that as the best Suffocation full length. In terms of full lengths, I would probably go:

*Despise the Sun
Effigy
Breeding
Pierced
ST/Souls to Deny
*Human Waste
Pinnacle of Bedlam
...Of the Dark Light
Blood Oath

*if EPs included, this is how the list would fare

More people need to put Suffo in their list of bands to do for the next poll instead of all thrash

 

[CiG]

Mine would be something like:

Pierced From Within
Effigy of the Forgotten
Breeding the Spawn
Despise the Sun
Suffocation
Souls to Deny
Human Waste
...Of the Dark Light
Blood Oath
Pinnacle of Bedlam

 

[EternalMetal]

Not sure which one is my fav, possibly Effigy, but sometimes I prefer Pierced.

I uploaded a clip of them from their tour last year. Incredible live band, definitely a top 5 for DM. Sad to see that this was Frank's last show

 

[The Ozzman]

I remember when I saw them after Pinnacle of Bedlam came out I asked Terrance which riffs were his favorites and it blew my mind when he said "All my old riffs SUCK!"

 

[TechnicalBarbarity]

Pierced From Within = Breeding the Spawn > Effigy of the Forgotten > Pinnacle of Bedlam > Souls to Deny = ... Of the Dark Light > Suffocation > Blood Oath

 

[HamburgerBoy]

Prophecies of a Dying World > most better-known NYDM including all Suffocation

 

[CiG]

Considering you gave Prophecies of a Dying World a 3.5/5 that must mean you have a pretty low opinion of NYDM.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

Considering you gave Prophecies of a Dying World a 3.5/5 that must mean you have a pretty low opinion of NYDM.

A 3.5 is roughly 80th percentile for me, so no not really.

 

[TechnicalBarbarity]

not controversial at all really, but its kind of sad that we have two Darkthrone albums in the song survivor thread before inducting other more worthy albums from more worthy bands

 

[EchoForever]

what bands would you have preferred other than darkthrone?

 

[TechnicalBarbarity]

what bands would you have preferred other than darkthrone?

do you want me to make a list? Any of the bands that were talking about right now in the NEXT SONG SURVIVOR THREAD, just to name a few.

 

[Sophii]

its a staple crossover thrash metal album, and even has crossover thrash as a primary on RYM

and did you just really refer to it as metalcore?

I just went ahead and took it off.
CroMags are proto-metalcore, but I guess that ain't really the same.

 

[TechnicalBarbarity]

I just went ahead and took it off.
CroMags are proto-metalcore, but I guess that ain't really the same.
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a lot of thrash combines "punk with heavy metal" ... that's actually one of the defining aspects of the genre of thrash metal. So no, that does not in equation make Cro-Mags or thrash metal "proto-metalcore". What a ridiculous thing to imply.

 

[Sophii]

a lot of thrash combines "punk with heavy metal" ... that's actually one of the defining aspects of the genre of thrash metal. So no, that does not in equation make Cro-Mags or thrash metal "proto-metalcore". What a ridiculous thing to imply.

Fair enough my dood

 

[TechnicalBarbarity]

... these bands have absolutely nothing to do with Cro-Mags, DRI, Agnostic Front, Discharge etc

 

[Sophii]

... these bands have absolutely nothing to do with Cro-Mags, DRI, Agnostic Front, Discharge etc

Thats because most modern metalcore are at the gates worship and gay emo faggots.

Original metallic hardcore had its hand influenced by crossover bands, crust bands, and hardcore punk- particularly new York hardcore bands.

Botch, Converge, Coalesce (though more groove oriented), Shai Hulud, Deadguy, Madball - these are all the original metalcore sounds. All hardcore rooted but enjoyed metal and incorporated metal riffs.

 

[TechnicalBarbarity]

Thats because most modern metalcore are at the gates worship and gay emo faggots.

Original metallic hardcore had its hand influenced by crossover bands, crust bands, and hardcore punk- particularly new York hardcore bands.

Botch, Converge, Coalesce (though more groove oriented), Shai Hulud, Deadguy, Madball - these are all the original metalcore sounds. All hardcore rooted but enjoyed metal and incorporated metal riffs.

yes but original metallic hardcore was not "metalcore", which is a term that pretty much started being used with the lame metalcore that we know today. But yea like i said plenty of metal is inspired by mixing elements of punk and heavy metal .. that in no way relates them to metalcore. Bnds that inspire other subgenres dont automatically get "proto" attached to them. A shit load of death metal musicians were inspired by Metallica, a band form a subgenre that shares many similarities with death metal, a subgenre that pretty much gave birth to death metal ... that does not make Metallica a "proto death metal" band.

 

[CiG]

... these bands have absolutely nothing to do with Cro-Mags, DRI, Agnostic Front, Discharge etc

Mallcore garbage.

 

[TechnicalBarbarity]

yeah thats pretty much what metalcore is.

 

[CiG]

Faggots ruined it, makes me want to puke and beat someone to death with a Destroy the Machines CD.