Controversial opinions on metal

[Savern]

The musical elements that they use are more varied, but like I already stated, they use them in a really consistently similar fashion, so their songwriting as a whole is not particularly varied despite the incorporation of a wider variety of musical elements. This is extremely easy to understand and was already stated by me in a clear and concise fashion, yet you seem to have not understood.

Meh, agree to disagree. To me Opeth are one of the most varied bands around.

 

[DarkBliss]

Opeth are formulaic, but then so are Metallica(at least on their least technical albums), Candlemass and Summoning(seriously, is there a more formulaic band than these Austrians, strictly from a technical standpoint?) I've actually been enjoying Blackwater Park lately. It's pretty good, even if it's just paint by the numbers progressive metal that's been done better by more competent bands.

 

[Ric]

Here's some really controversial stuff on Opeth; Dirge For November is the best song on Blackwater Park, and now I'm not only talking about the acoustic parts but the whole thing, such a sad song. And I might ad that I'm not counting Still Day Beneath The Sun or Patterns In The Ivy II, two of the best songs they've ever made.

Here´s some really non-controversial stuff on Opeth; his clean voice is horrible.

 

[Savern]

Here´s some really non-controversial stuff on Opeth; his clean voice is horrible.

Don't be a dick.

 

[Ric]

Listen to Dirge for November.

 

[Savern]

Listen to Dirge for November.

His clean voice on that song is deliberately quiet, broken and emotive. Listen to any other Opeth song. Mike has got an incredable clean voice, especially when you take into account he's also one of the best growlers around.

 

[mutantllama]

Here´s some really non-controversial stuff on Opeth; his clean voice is horrible.

I prefer his growls to his clean voice.

 

[Ric]

His clean voice on that song is deliberately quiet, broken and emotive. Listen to any other Opeth song. Mike has got an incredable clean voice, especially when you take into account he's also one of the best growlers around.

Ok, his clean voice is better than Steven Wilsons.

 

[Belligerent]

Here´s some really non-controversial stuff on Opeth; his clean voice is horrible.

fuck off

Ok, his clean voice is better than Steven Wilsons.

I like both, but if you want to compare for some acinine reason i'd say yes.

 

[seedofvengeance]

I disagree.
His clean voice is what makes Opeth mildly entertaining to me. They still bore the shit out of me 97% of the time, but in some songs (such as Bleak, which happens to be my favorite from them by far) his clean parts are quite beautiful.

 

[DarkBliss]

One thing you can say about Opeth is that they don't create a unique atmosphere on their albums compared to bands that preceded them. Their music is a melting pot of Black Sabbath, King Crimson and Metallica influences, but it's still good music.

By the same token, you can say that Candlemass ripped off Black Sabbath.And many Black Sabbath fanatics who were raised on the band's music will probably support this view in saying that Candlemass is absolute pretentious crap. And I can certainly understand these people, even if I don't agree with them.

 

[damientheomen]

On the subject of Akerfeldt's vocals, I much preferred them in Bloodbath than Opeth.

Also, don't know if it's already been mention but no one ever seems to agree on this one. Spheres is my favourite Pestilence album.

 

[Dak]

On the subject of Akerfeldt's vocals, I much preferred them in Bloodbath than Opeth.

I am just going to have to agree with this by default because I like Bloodbath to a degree but for the most part I find Opeth pretty boring.

 

[Tennyson]

I have tried listening to MAYH probably 10 times now and there really is something about it that bores me - the only song that stood out to me on it was the "remember tomorrow" cover =P. In an Opeth thread when i saw that was the album most people recommended I never really bothered to try out other ones...which is pretty dumb, but I was expecting a lot from them in just one album with all the hype surrounding them, and it didn't deliver.

 

[MasterOLightning]

It's rare for a band to have so many different sounding albums and a total lack of popular consensus as to which is the best one. No other band like that comes to mind.

 

[DarkBliss]

I have tried listening to MAYH probably 10 times now and there really is something about it that bores me - the only song that stood out to me on it was the "remember tomorrow" cover =P. In an Opeth thread when i saw that was the album most people recommended I never really bothered to try out other ones...which is pretty dumb, but I was expecting a lot from them in just one album with all the hype surrounding them, and it didn't deliver.

Blackwater Park is the one that got me into the band.
Well, it was actually one of my Metal 101 records.
I think i's their most accessible work.

 

[waif]

STOP TALKING ABOUT OPETH MOTHERFUCKERS

Bathory's debut is thoroughly awesome. Even the excessive three minute intro is awesome.

 

[mutantllama]

Well we didn't have anything else to argue about

 

[Einherjar86]

I do, but I don't know if it will be controversial. At any rate, it's an opinion and I want to state it:

Anders Friden has a horrible clean voice. I frequently enjoy when melodic death metal vocalists sing, but not Anders.

Bathory's debut is thoroughly awesome. Even the excessive three minute intro is awesome.

Is this controversial?

 

[seedofvengeance]

Considering that Bathory might be the single most respected band on this forum... I'm gonna go ahead and say no.