Controversial opinions on metal
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Badbird
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Like I said it has tons of different music genres mixed in. Lot of the bands have a grunge influence in then. Just because it has a heavy sound does not mean it's metal.
no country for old wainds
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plz point out where i spec. said a large amount of money as opposed to enough to buy like groceries for a month. same for the other guy 2. THANKS
youre a bit confused. lol
and to all the .'s and other _____
yet not a single attempt at describing specific qualities of metal has been made, outside of the one that was obviously innacurate.
I disagree with the quoted statement because the first and foremost quality of heavy metal... it the heavy part, thats how it recieved its name.
So if someone is going to argue the point it best be done with some accurate descriptions rather than being indignant about someone elses post and saying nothing.
Sitting safely on the thrash, black and death metal side of things and knowing you are listening to metal is DUH, get outside toward the fringes of the large molten pool of "metal" and you better be smart... not smart assed
damnromulans
Klingons do not faint
According to you sausageheads, it's only metal if you approve of it.
Bathory still > everything else. Even though a lot of other bands are more technically skilled, have better production, and Quorthon's vocals are often horribly out of tune, Bathory is still the most indisputably "metal" musical act of all time, forever.
The Butt is getting up there with JGMetalhead
Bathory still > everything else. Even though a lot of other bands are more technically skilled, have better production, and Quorthon's vocals are often horribly out of tune, Bathory is still the most indisputably "metal" musical act of all time, forever.
The Butt is getting up there with JGMetalhead
Dak
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Never really found Bathory all that engaging. Few good songs here and there but I guess not really my style.
damnromulans
Klingons do not faint
I think a lot of Bathory's appeal is based on whether or not you find the subject matter/imagery of the music rousing or engaging, and whether you are okay with many songs that sound similar to each other.
I'm pretty sure Manowar are more metal, but yeah, Bathory FUCK YEAH
if by "metal" you hold the mainst┬ream view on it which is that metal is unlistenable trash then yeah :Smokin:
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I rarely listen to Slipknot. The only thing you pointed out is that you hate Slipknot, and there fore they are not a metal band. You also mentioned something about them being a "rap group", thought there is only one song from the first album in which Cory Taylor raps. Machine Head's Burning Red album is at least half rap vocals, are they now a rap group because of that 1 album?
I don't dislike Slipknot. Not a huge fan, I just like a handful of songs, really. Children Of Bodom is a good comparison, because the two are examples of sub-par over-hyped metal bands. Yes, Slipknot is metal. For the very rational reasons I had previously pointed out.
What is that based on? From what I can tell, nothing. Each band uses 1)loud and/or fast drum beats, 2) aggressive vocals, 3), heavy, minor-key guitar riffs that are upfront in the mix, and 4) dark lyrical themes.
damnromulans
Klingons do not faint
I'm pretty sure Manowar are more metal, but yeah, Bathory FUCK YEAH
Playing loudly live and showing your chest hair to everyone does not necessitate metalness, but that's just me. Manowar makes me want to run around swinging battleaxes and watch men do it bareback. Bathory makes me want to grow goat horns and LARP in the northern forests.
Satanstoenail
My Larpstyle determines my Derpstyle
It's amazing how many people think that if something is shit, it's automatically not metal.
Not trying to give you a hard time here but just want to point out my feelings on this.
1) loud and/or fast drums beats is not soley the property of metal, (more a common problem with drummers LOL). Nor does metal HAVE to have fast drum beats or "blast" beats like you mentioned earlier. Sabbath was the king of sludge and had many slow steady grooves. Maiden wasnt always balls to the wall either. Many metal bands have had slower paced steady grooves
2)Dickinson and especially Ozzy were not that overwhelmingly aggressive. There were previous(Dickinson) and concurrent(Ozzy) hardrock vocalists more aggressive and raspy. Many early metal vocals were clean as could be and many today still are.
3)up front guitar has been a mostly standard policy of rock, the heavy stuff started with hardrock. Minor keys I dont get, it all converts to major to me, but Maiden used very basic common progressions and stood apart from hardrock in their constant usage of pedals and gallops, something actually started by hardrock bands such as Uriah Heep, Zeppelin, Heart, ect. One thing early metal guitar players did do was steered further away from pentatonic improv and I/IV/V progressions but again hardrock, progressive and fusion players did this first. The key word you used here was HEAVY, the crushing weight of the whole thing IS where heavy metal came from. The metal word also refering to the grateing of it, massive over driven distortion, thick grinding saturation.
4)dark lyrical themes, not always existant in all metal and also exist in other forms of music. I think skull and goat fucking however is specific to SOME metal... LOL I mean country folk do it too but dont sing about it, just that the wife left but not the reason why.
damnromulans
Klingons do not faint
uh just because a band shares musical traits with another genre doesn't mean something isn't metal
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