Controversial opinions on metal

[Ryuuzaki]

Nordland I and II are my favs. More on the Viking metal side though.

 

[gundamterran]

I was just being playful, lol. Some of my favourite bands include shit like Porcupine Tree, Deftones, and Parkway Drive. :S

 

[General Zaroff]

Deftones isn't shit.

 

[King Richard]

Yes they is.

 

[gundamterran]

Deftones are great, and definately don't deserve to be lumped in with the Korns and Limp Bizkits.

 

[DrSkye]

+1. I love the Deftones. Perhaps you missed that trolling through my last.fm I kid, I kid. But the Deftones rule for sure.

 

[Draehl]

If you can't get hooked on A Fine Day To Die, then you might just want to give up. It's the best song on the album.

One of the amazing tracks. Don't get me wrong. Their songs that I like are EPIC, but there's just too many filler tracks for my liking. Filler is, of course, subjective.

 

[DrSkye]

So I'm the only one who can't stand Bathory vocals?

 

[Evil?]

But he has PASSION!!! It is not about ability. FEEEEEEL IT!

 

[General Zaroff]

So I'm the only one who can't stand Bathory vocals?

Is Bathory the only BM band you've heard?

 

[Krow]

I think standard black metal vocals are pretty much the biggest obstacle of new listeners to extreme music. (especially if you started with death metal)

 

[DrSkye]

Of older stuff, yes, I believe so.

 

[DrSkye]

And I certainly am starting with death, I've listened to very little but Human and Alters out and about the last few days.

 

[General Zaroff]

Might wanna stick to Death Metal for a while.

 

[cookiecutter]

This is just heavier prog. rock?

That's what it sounds like to me. I mean they're really heavy, but a lot of the riffs sound like if Pantera really liked Rush. Can't stand this band at all. I like when they're thrashy but I'd rather listen to a thrash band and not this weird prog/metal/rock/thrash thing.

 

[Mort Divine]

Early Mastodon is really fucking easily sludge and not really progressive outside of the drum work.

 

[cookiecutter]

That first melody in the first song you posted is the kind of thing I associate with prog. I don't really know what sludge is, does it mean that kind of shifting, downtuned riffing?

 

[Mort Divine]

Sludge is basically what happens when doom gets mixed with hardcore.

The more traditional brand of sludge is pretty bluesy and the doom is more prominent:





Then Neurosis came along and took influences from these bands, even more hardcore punk, and some Swans as well as tribal music and ambient and created.




Mastodon took this sound that Neurosis pioneered and streamlined the everliving fuck out of it to something that was catchy and much more easily digestible (but still very good.) Though they eventually would drop most of their sludge aspects sometime around Leviathan.

 

[VelociBrad]

classic/tr00 sludge is bad ass. not really a fan of what Neurosis did with it or Mastodon.

 

[meaperson333]

Crowbar is ftw.