Controversial opinions on metal

[V.V.V.V.V.]

There is melodic death metal (Intestine Baalism, Dismember, Acephalus, etc.) that is structurally and aesthetically death metal, with definite injections of melody into the riffwriting (as opposed to atonality which a lot of OSDM, etc. employs), and there is "melo-death" which is basically, heavier, more angular heavy/power metal with harsh vocals.

 

[Krow]

I still don't read the lyrics so I'm not sure if they are really death metal anyway.

 

[Saparmurat_Niyazov]

Lyrical content is not make or break in death metal you stupid cunt. And Monowar is awesome. Also, V5 and I are still the only ones that agree that melodeath and melodic death metal are actually 2 different things. It's not that hard to figure out.

 

[V.V.V.V.V.]

We are not the only people who agree on that; it is well agreed upon, and most people don't talk about it because it is common fucking sense. Bloody 'ell.

 

[Saparmurat_Niyazov]

Only people on this forum, sorry.

 

[Cythraul]

That's also false.

 

[Saparmurat_Niyazov]

Apparently I've stumbled upon a controversial opinion... or perhaps my own obliviousness?

 

[V.V.V.V.V.]

Patently.

dude, it's completely incontrovertible shit. There's no way anyone could disagree that there is an obvious, insane difference between something like Dismember and SOTS-sounding At The Gates.

 

[gundamterran]

Melodeath, aka Melodic Death Metal, sounds nothing like real Death Metal, therefore it's a different genre altogether, and arguing that is just plain fucking retarded.

After a few days of thinking, and hardcore attempts at getting into it, I have come to enjoy some Norwegian Black Metal other then Burzum. Mayhem's first album, Darkthrones first 4 (Soulside doesn't really count, but I love it.), and Ildjarn.

Although I doubt it's controversial, France has had the best BM scene for a while.

Profanatica is the best black metal to ever come from the US.

V5 has noodz of him laying in a pile of ABBA vinyls.

 

[Krow]

Melodeath, aka Melodic Death Metal, sounds nothing like real Death Metal, therefore it's a different genre altogether, and arguing that is just plain fucking retarded.

This is incorrect and dumb.

Melodeath =/= Melodic death metal.

Albums like AtG - TRITSIO and Hypocrisy - the fourth dimension are most definitely death metal, and arguing that is just plain fucking retarded.

 

[Satanstoenail]

Melodeath is a really gay name for a sub-subgenre, but it's probably rather apt considering the various uphill gardening characteristics within the music.

 

[Dak]

Uphill gardening? Is this some sort of Aussie innuendo?

 

[Satanstoenail]

British actually.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Uphill gardening

 

[mutantllama]

Manowar rules, end of story.

 

[Personified Hatred]

Controversial opinions? Slipknot is good.

 

[KafkaX]

Manowar rules, end of story.

This.

 

[Saparmurat_Niyazov]

Melodeath, aka Melodic Death Metal, sounds nothing like real Death Metal, therefore it's a different genre altogether, and arguing that is just plain fucking retarded.

This is incorrect and dumb.

Melodeath =/= Melodic death metal.

Albums like AtG - TRITSIO and Hypocrisy - the fourth dimension are most definitely death metal, and arguing that is just plain fucking retarded.

That's exactly what I was talking about. Just as speed metal and thrash metal become confused with one another, though they are distinctly different sub-genres. Allow me to clarify:

Melodic Death Metal:
Amorphis (Privilege Of Evil and Kerelian Isthmus era)
Bloodbath
Hypocrisy (The Fourth Dimension and Abducted especially)
Death (the last 4 albums. Also considered technical death metal, however melodic guitar riffs are central to all the songs while retaining a death metal structure)
Vital Remains (Shitty band I know, but that's not the point)

Melodeath:
In Flames
Soilwork
Scar Symmetry
Carcass (Heartwork and Swan Song)
Arch Enemy
All bands above use death metal styled growling and a few blast beats in conjunction with power and heavy metal styled song structures.

 

[Windie]

Controversial opinions? Slipknot is good.

I'll agree they have some good, memorable songs

 

[gundamterran]

But Melodeath is just a shortened form for Melodic Death Metal. Death Metal in itself can be melodic, and dosen't deserve another subgenere for that.

 

[Manic Ferocity]

Yes it does. Melodeath is power metal with harsh vocals and thus not death metal. Melodic death metal is death metal with melody incorporated in it.