Controversial opinions on metal

[Bitencourt29]

I'm no death metal aficianado, but for my money, The Chasm is the best death metal band going.

I like them, Deathcult is an awesome DM album. Too bad their shit is fucking hard to get (at Distros, at least).

 

[Manic Ferocity]

Effigy of the Forgotten honestly kinda sucks and is easily one of the most overrated death metal albums.

*Waits for retaliation from cookiecutter and V5

 

[gundamterran]

I gotta say I'm against that too, haha. Effigy is great fun, Pierced from Within I found better though.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

Effigy of the Forgotten honestly kinda sucks and is easily one of the most overrated death metal albums.

*Waits for retaliation from cookiecutter and V5

I can accept you not liking it, but in the context of my post how is it any more overrated than Legion? The vocals are much more guttural than most at the time, it increased the br00tal blasty-factor significantly from the standard formerly held by Altars of Madness, and marked the point of virtual-removal of thrash's influence on the genre. Legion added nothing.

 

[gundamterran]

I have to ask though, DOES a band have to add something to a genre for you to say their good? Like ffs, bands like Venom, and Strapping Young Lad are extremely influential, Venom moreso then SYL, but both are trash.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

I have to ask though, DOES a band have to add something to a genre for you to say their good? Like ffs, bands like Venom, and Strapping Young Lad are extremely influential, Venom moreso then SYL, but both are trash.

I said nothing of that sort. You claimed that the S/T and Legion were "very ambitious for their time", and I gave an argument that they were nothing of the sort. That they're shit albums is besides the point.

 

[Manic Ferocity]

Deicide and Legion were very "brutal" for their time. What are you talking about? Effigy of the Forgotten marked the beginning of the exaggerated borderline parody of "brutality" in death metal.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

Deicide and Legion were very "brutal" for their time. What are you talking about? Effigy of the Forgotten marked the beginning of the exaggerated borderline parody of "brutality" in death metal.

Modern br00tal borderline parody bands owe a lot to Effigy of the Forgotten, but you simply fail if you think that album had already reached that point. Now, if death metal people didn't seem more stable than their other extreme metal peers, I'd say that Deicide perfectly encapsulated with those two albums what people laugh at in death metal. Hilariously lame anti-Christian lyrics, over the top image, Hanneman/King-quality solos squared... nothing but a joke band. That's why those albums outsold most other death metal albums at the time.

 

[Manic Ferocity]

Hilariously lame anti-Christian lyrics, over the top image, Hanneman/King-quality solos squared... nothing but a joke band.

That describes a good amount of quality metal so I think you should probably stop listening to the genre.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

That describes a good amount of quality metal so I think you should probably stop listening to the genre.

I described two things not part of the actual music and what is widely considered one of the sloppiest guitar duos in metaldom. I think you should go and play Satanist dress-up and stop listening to metal. Your love of black metal further supports this.

 

[waif]

Venom...are trash.

ESS EH SEE OH ARR EYE EFF EYE SEE EEE, SACRIFICE

 

[The Ozzman]

itt people feed the trolls and don't care

 

[VelociBrad]

Venom's first 2 albums are awesome. Unless you just hate fun catchy metal.

 

[Thoth-Amon]

early Deicide kicks ass. anyone who HATES their first 3 albums clearly does not understand death metal.

 

[CF87]

 

[Saparmurat_Niyazov]

I'm not sure if anyone on this forum actually likes Floridan death metal. Morbid Angel is the only band that I never see getting ripped on.

 

[meaperson333]

Morbid Angel isn't that great, at least to my ears.

 

[Thoth-Amon]

case in point

 

[sevag00]

early Deicide kicks ass. anyone who HATES their first 3 albums clearly does not understand death metal.

 

[Estellise Sidos Heurassein]

Venom's first 2 albums are awesome. Unless you just hate fun catchy metal.

Their third album is just as good as the first two.