Controversial opinions on metal

Trouble is my favorite doom metal band for exactly the reasons shown above, so props to the above posts there. The riff at about 2:09 in Revelation (Life or Death) is my personal favorite from them. The thing with Trouble is that they had no issue writing anything from what were almost thrash riffs down to some really slow dirgy (for its time) ones; they understood how to convey a range of moods and emotions in sheer riffing.

And yeah, I had actually noticed that my copy of Psalm 9 (the 1994 CD re-release) sounded a bit off at points, and now listen to some cassette rip I found on a blog which improved things. Should probably try and find a quality vinyl rip one day.

TechnicalBarbarity said:
lolwut?
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Once "atmospheric" and "symphonic" and etc black metal started to take off, riffs were reduced to little more than note progressions on which to apply keyboards or a couple of jangly chords repeated over and over. Sure, albums like DMDS have plenty of great riffs, and if we include first-wave stuff fundamentally built on speed/thrash riffs then you can find good stuff there too.
 
HamburgerBoy said:
Trouble is my favorite doom metal band for exactly the reasons shown above, so props to the above posts there. The riff at about 2:09 in Revelation (Life or Death) is my personal favorite from them. The thing with Trouble is that they had no issue writing anything from what were almost thrash riffs down to some really slow dirgy (for its time) ones; they understood how to convey a range of moods and emotions in sheer riffing.

And yeah, I had actually noticed that my copy of Psalm 9 (the 1994 CD re-release) sounded a bit off at points, and now listen to some cassette rip I found on a blog which improved things. Should probably try and find a quality vinyl rip one day.



Once "atmospheric" and "symphonic" and etc black metal started to take off, riffs were reduced to little more than note progressions on which to apply keyboards or a couple of jangly chords repeated over and over. Sure, albums like DMDS have plenty of great riffs, and if we include first-wave stuff fundamentally built on speed/thrash riffs then you can find good stuff there too.
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difference isn't gigantic, but it's pretty easy to tell them apart with headphones or good speakers(more hiss and less dynamics on the 94 remaster).
i can give you the files if you want, just ask if you're ever interested.
now the escapi remaster is completely different beast, that one is complete garbage. :flame:
it's way louder and has a modern fucking sound, lol.

have my doubts about the vinyl improving it much. waveform looks pretty good to me, but if you find it, let me know, so i can compare :)

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for the unaware

94 metal blade remaster
http://www.discogs.com/Trouble-Psalm-9/release/1682034

mid 80s original(listed as 84, but it probably came out a few years later)
http://www.discogs.com/Trouble-Trouble/release/3522998
 
HamburgerBoy said:
Once "atmospheric" and "symphonic" and etc black metal started to take off, riffs were reduced to little more than note progressions on which to apply keyboards or a couple of jangly chords repeated over and over. Sure, albums like DMDS have plenty of great riffs, and if we include first-wave stuff fundamentally built on speed/thrash riffs then you can find good stuff there too.
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With all this shit talking, both literally and jokingly, Im surprised big boss man U_C hasnt stepped in to pick random fights, calling you all immature, childish dicks.

I kinda feel special. <3
 
HamburgerBoy said:
Show me some quality black metal riffing then.
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This might actually be worth posting for.

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High quality riffs scattered throughout each song. I can't be arsed pointing each example out.
 
I was listening to hades - dawn of the dying sun. Some great riffs on there and the bass plays a huge part. Very underrated norwegian bm.

I understand where hbb is coming from though probably not to the same degree
 
Master's Hammer and Mortuary Drape are first-wave so of course they have some strong riffs, no argument there. Similar goes for Gorgoroth, they were early enough in the second wave that the DMDS/etc influence can still be heard. That Grand Belial's Key got surprisingly choppy/groovy after the first minute, I can dig that. I was under the impression that they were more melodic and flowery, but if the rest of the album has moments like that I could enjoy it. Never got into Rotting Christ, and there seemed to be a strong inverse correlation between how black metal the riffs sound and how good they are; the tremolo picked ones that make up the first and last minutes of the song are the least interesting. The Sorhin song did nothing for me.
 
I'm sure you'll just tell me these songs aren't "pure black metal" or some stupid shit.
 
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