Controversial opinions on metal

[Black Friday]

I like Symbolic (though I think I still like latter day MA better), but I really hate The Sound of Perseverance. It's wankery plus horrible vocals.

I can understand disliking the vocals, as they're definitely not for everyone, but TSOP has alot of great writing on it, even if it's played really fast.

 

[rms]

I hope it isn't controversial to say that lamentations is way better than new dark age! I was lied to ha ha

 

[waif]

Maybe Chuck went above and beyond normal wankery levels, but not in real musical quality.

Tbh the guitar playing on the last three is just fucking godlike.

 

[S<issors]

I hear MA has a pretty decent guitarist, too.

 

[Mort Divine]

Replace Chuck with Alf and Death with the At the Gates and you get my opinion on TRiTSIO.

Only there is a clear difference in Alf's ability to compose music and Chuck's inability to do so - so that opinion is kind of bunk.

 

[CF87]

... so At The Gates is Alf all of the sudden ?

 

[V.V.V.V.V.]

Well, he composed the music.

 

[CF87]

so did Anders Björler.

 

[Omni]

Tbh the guitar playing on the last three is just fucking godlike.

Godlike wankery does not impress me. Stop making me repeat this by replying like it's somehow going to change or negate my opinion.

 

[Black Friday]

Only there is a clear difference in Alf's ability to compose music and Chuck's inability to do so - so that opinion is kind of bunk.

Yeah, namely that neither has any of what you just said.

 

[Orion Crystal Ice]

When I listen to TSOP I just hear ripping progressive thrash, nothing more or less than that. I feel like if it was a different band some people would be singing a different song about it than they are. Not all, but some.

 

[Orion Crystal Ice]

Also, to continue the theme of the thread, I pretty much don't find any ATG to be too good at all. I appreciate what they were trying to do with the early stuff, but the writing just doesn't hit the mark for me. I'm still trying to find a record that has some really really inspired songwriting but in that odd, atmospheric, death/black/prog-ish.....style..thing. The second Chasm is sort of like that but that could be better too.

 

[V.V.V.V.V.]

TSOP is by no means progressive thrash, and even if you were just using thrash as an expressive term there, there's just way too much pointless herking-and-jerking on that album, it gets pretty damn annoying. Also Chuck sounds like total shit (not to mention he absolutely destroyed Painkiller...goddamn) most of the time, including total voice-cracks in Bite the Pain! Anyway, I like listening to Spirit Crusher and Voice of the Soul here and there, but most of the album sounds like poo to me.

 

[Death Aflame]

IMO, Crimson Massacre seems to have continued where Alf and early ATG left off. Can't wait to hear the new record.

 

[Orion Crystal Ice]

I agree the Priest cover sucks, the feel is horrible too. I know not what to call the riffs on the album but thrash, however, and I'm not using 'progressive' as in...it's doing something new...rather as in the 'prog' sense metal is mostly familiar with, of utilizing odd scales and signatures within the music.

 

[Black Friday]

TSOP is by no means progressive thrash, and even if you were just using thrash as an expressive term there, there's just way too much pointless herking-and-jerking on that album, it gets pretty damn annoying. Also Chuck sounds like total shit (not to mention he absolutely destroyed Painkiller...goddamn) most of the time, including total voice-cracks in Bite the Pain! Anyway, I like listening to Spirit Crusher and Voice of the Soul here and there, but most of the album sounds like poo to me.

I don't hear the voice cracks, in fact, they seem to be MORE prominent on earlier albums. Human comes to mind. And where's this herking-and-jerking? Everything on that album flows very naturally to me.

 

[Hippy Dippy Weatherman]

I find it hard to be motivated enough to listen to a band for the
first time,that has a really sucky name.

 

[V.V.V.V.V.]

I don't hear the voice cracks, in fact, they seem to be MORE prominent on earlier albums. Human comes to mind. And where's this herking-and-jerking? Everything on that album flows very naturally to me.

Um, you don't hear them? Chorus of Bite the Pain, second time 'round. Trust me.

Also, no it doesn't. The structure of songs like Scavenger of Human Sorrow sound ludicrously broken.

 

[Mort Divine]

Yeah, namely that neither has any of what you just said.

Alf, alongside the boys in The Chasm, are is the best songwriter in death metal. Chuck has only like two songs that deviate from a typical verse-chorus-verse structure, definition of boring and unoriginal.

 

[V.V.V.V.V.]

Well, no, it's not that. It's that most of Death's songs just sound like they're trying to do too much random shit, as best evinced on a great majority of TSOP.