meaperson333
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Lars is a terrible drummer.
Hell even Joey Jordison performed better when he filled in for Lars.
Hell even Joey Jordison performed better when he filled in for Lars.
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That is pretty much what I'm saying. The end product is all I care about. I don't care if a band used a drum machine or a live drummer as long as it sounds good; it's just that drum machines usually don't sound good.
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Allow me to posit some completely boring and scarcely elaborated opinions.
-- I'm a huge Pantera fan and I would not consider CFH to be thrash. Since day one that album has always sounded a lot more like trad metal. I mean, really, does it sound more like Slayer or Motorhead? CFH is slower paced, less aggressive, and more groovy (in a classic rock sense) than thrash. Reminds me a lot of Deep Purple tbh. Pantera's earlier material is the closest to thrash if you ask me. Their later material gets much more aggressive and faster and I'd say there's tons of thrash influence but it doesn't sound like thrash to me. CFH is far too laid back to be thrash, srsly.
-- Ildjarn is a great band. Some of his stuff is pretty accessible and much of it is not.
-- I agree with whoever said that thing about Dream Theater. Thrash metal damn well better be amateur because if it's not then it barely even qualifies as thrash in my book. Then again, I prefer all of my music to be amateur so I guess it doesn't have anything to do with identifying thrash.
-- I'm a huge Pantera fan and I would not consider CFH to be thrash. Since day one that album has always sounded a lot more like trad metal. I mean, really, does it sound more like Slayer or Motorhead? CFH is slower paced, less aggressive, and more groovy (in a classic rock sense) than thrash. Reminds me a lot of Deep Purple tbh. Pantera's earlier material is the closest to thrash if you ask me. Their later material gets much more aggressive and faster and I'd say there's tons of thrash influence but it doesn't sound like thrash to me. CFH is far too laid back to be thrash, srsly.
-- Ildjarn is a great band. Some of his stuff is pretty accessible and much of it is not.
-- I agree with whoever said that thing about Dream Theater. Thrash metal damn well better be amateur because if it's not then it barely even qualifies as thrash in my book. Then again, I prefer all of my music to be amateur so I guess it doesn't have anything to do with identifying thrash.
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For all it's simplicity and having far superior bands in it's sub-genre, The Sword still is a decent band which isn't all that bad.
For all it's simplicity and having far superior bands in it's sub-genre, The Sword still is a decent band which isn't all that bad.
TheInsane
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Well Jordison is pretty good drummer in his own right not just compared to Lars. Thyen if you like the bands he plays in is another thing entirely.
Saparmurat_Niyazov
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I think The Sword is has a great overall vibe and they sound good, but the songs largely are just not memorable.
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Am I the only person that couldnt give a shit about drumming in metal unless its terribly annoying?
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meaperson333
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His drum "solos" consist of hitting random stuff on his set as fast as he can, and his drum lines are equally uncreative.
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HamburgerBoy, let me get this straight. Lamb of God is your idea of "true" metal and the Norwegian black metal scene is what you consider "false." Only this forum would generate such an assbackward idea of elitism.
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Even when I enjoyed Pantera I never considered them thrash. I can see perhaps a thrash influence but they were more on the side of groove/heavy than thrash.
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His point was that some guy living in his moms basement with a keyboard and guitar and a mic is not that "metal".
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Early 80's black metal is heavy or thrash metal. Early 90's black metal (which is what the sub-genre is now best known for) deviates a fuckton further than mid-tempo and down-tuned thrash (aka "groove metal") does.
I can't think of anything on the albums I mentioned that's as jarringly written as the bad moments of Show No Mercy. Metal Church's Merciless Onslaught has that one riff where it sounds sort of like they heard a thrash riff once through a foggy mystical portal and tried to copy it, but otherwise I can't think of any, and that one is still very ignorable.
Come on, you're the one that said "Cowboys from Hell has some moments reminiscent of heavy metal". I generally don't care much about what does or does not constitute as metal; I just don't see how Pantera (who, post-glam, are clearly 100% metal) is somehow less metal despite being clearly derived from good old wholesome traditional and thrash metal, while second-wave black metal jumped quickly into symphonic/dark ambient/whatever experimentations.
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I don't see how 90's black metal 'deviates' from metal at all. It has its own distincitve characteristics to be sure but so does each sub-genre.
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