Controversial opinions on metal

[HamburgerBoy]

First wave black metal is much better than second wave. I do enjoy the second wave, but first wave is just so badass.

This is another way of saying that metal that isn't black metal is better than black metal. Mayhem aside, I agree.

 

[The Butt]

*facepalm*

 

[HamburgerBoy]

*facepalm*

Why do you facepalm just me and not the both of us when we are making basically the same claim? Granted, my statement taken most literally can be taken to be logically fallacious by implying that Mr. Spiderchrist implied that all metal that isn't black metal is preferred by him, when he could very well disfavor other sub-genres more. However, it should be obvious what I meant out of his post, and that I was just attempting to exercise brevity.

 

[stevepwn]

slipknots iowa is a great album
black metal sucks and is depressing to listen to

 

[gundamterran]

stevepwn, you're a juggalo. Why're you here?

 

[Kreated]

Iowa is a terrible album, it's just angry noise. Even Slipknot's first album was better

 

[Nightmare_Heaven]

black metal sucks and is depressing to listen to

Well, shit. The concept of music being something other than just another asinine fucking pleasure principle. Shock and horror!

 

[ThePitt]

Metal is more elitist than Jazz.

 

[gundamterran]

Not even close. Jazz elitists, classical elitists, and Music Theory fags are all far more elitist then anyone in the metal scene. It's awful.

 

[The Butt]

Why do you facepalm just me and not the both of us when we are making basically the same claim? Granted, my statement taken most literally can be taken to be logically fallacious by implying that Mr. Spiderchrist implied that all metal that isn't black metal is preferred by him, when he could very well disfavor other sub-genres more. However, it should be obvious what I meant out of his post, and that I was just attempting to exercise brevity.

It's because you're a dum dum pooper head.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

Not even close. Jazz elitists, classical elitists, and Music Theory fags are all far more elitist then anyone in the metal scene. It's awful.

I don't know about that. I took a jazz appreciation class for a multicultural elective and while the instructor and all of the guests (all members of the school's jazz ensemble) took massive shits on Kenny G, I don't think any of them said that he wasn't tr00ly jazz. Then look at people that think Europe, Disturbed, Protest the Hero, or whatever other hated band of the day aren't really metal.

 

[Spiderchrist]

I do enjoy black metal. I realize most of the bands like Venom, Sodom, Destruction, Celtic Frost, etc. lean on the Thrash Side, but are also considered first wave. So going by the genre they are often put in, I prefer 1st wave vs. 2nd wave. Not hating on any genre.

 

[Cythraul]

Not that I have a problem with first wave black metal, but it strikes me as an absolute bore compared to second wave bm. I really am not hearing what's supposed to be so terribly interesting about the first wave. It seems to me like there's barely anything going on there.

 

[Gorkon]

Not that I have a problem with first wave black metal, but it strikes me as an absolute bore compared to second wave bm. I really am not hearing what's supposed to be so terribly interesting about the first wave. It seems to me like there's barely anything going on there.

Some may find this boring, but at least its coherent..and not screeched horribly like some BM vocalists.

 

[Spiderchrist]

To Mega Therion is one of my favorite albums. Black metal or not, the songs are evil.

 

[The Butt]

I love both the first and second waves, but only the second has that transcendent quality to it, IMO.

 

[Einherjar86]

 

[mutantllama]

Although I personally prefer the 1st wave stuff(besides a few albums 2nd wave stuff) I can see why Cythraul (iirc he said he's not much into thrash) and others prefer the 2nd wave stuff.

 

[Mulver]

If there's a true form of black metal most of it comes from the 2nd wave imho. None from 1st wave.

 

[Spiderchrist]

The only reason I don't like 2nd wave as much is because of the tradition of shitty production. That doesn't define black metal. Mayhem evolved and got away from that, and still succeeded in being a great black metal band. The shitty production works, just not on all black metal. Originality is key.