Dark prog

[illidurit]

This is one discription of what "progressive" is and then there is the genre termed progressive which usually discribes they way the music is presented

the "one description" is what 'progressive' actually is, and the genre termed progressive that gets plastered over every other metal band is not truely progressive

the only reason the misnomer survives is because of ignorant people, like, apparently, you

 

[Liquid Tension]

it certantly makes me alot smarter than someone who doesnt know, sweetheart.

Weak come back....

I have a question on your what is progressive music theory...

When a band comes out with a new progressive sound you will call them progressive so what happens when they have a follow up disc that doesn't change that much?

 

[Liquid Tension]

the "one description" is what 'progressive' actually is, and the genre termed progressive that gets plastered over every other metal band is not truely progressive

the only reason the misnomer survives is because of ignorant people, like, apparently, you

What?

 

[illidurit]

lul retard

 

[Tubbs]

You kids need to calm down.

 

[Liquid Tension]

What?

 

[Death_To_False_Metal]

Aaliah songs have odd time signature, she is teh best prog artist since 70's Rush I am tellin' yah !!!

 

[Tubbs]

What?

What?

What?

Hearing aid?

 

[Mr Samsara]

Ok... so end the spamfest.

 

[Liquid Tension]

Ok... so end the spamfest.

That's what it's called.....

Too bad you don't step in more often!

 

[Braighs]

Aaliah songs have odd time signature, she is teh best prog artist since 70's Rush I am tellin' yah !!!

In all honesty, she is trumphd by Outkast. "Hey Ya!" was in 11/8 fgs!

 

[Don Corleone]

odd time signatures in of themselves dont make a band progressive, although early on in progressive rock meanderings, it was very en vogue to have odd time signatures included in most of your songs, so thats a stereotype that has stuck.

isnt that enough to define an aspect of the genre?...many prog rock bands employed these kinds of rhythms in their songs. different time signatures alone may not be enough to call a band "prog" (since -like other people said- even many pop music artists may do, too) but, i insist, isnt it a key element in the genre.

 

[Seance]

it's not smart to smart off to the forum mod

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i'll settle for that. retroactively groovy

 

[Mr Samsara]

it's not smart to smart off to the forum mod

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[wankerness]

so if the genre termed progressive doesn't entail progressive music then why the fuck is it called progressive? because noobs like you propagate it

Couldn't the same thing be said about "indie rock" or "emo"? The actual meaning of independent and emotional are most definitely not the same thing as the use of them as genres. I think prog is the same way, prog tends to be uncreative stupid crap with too many notes and odd time sigs and annoying wuss vocals and lyrics about armadillo tanks while stuff you'd describe as being "progressive" would actually be creative and probably not usually even be in the "prog" genre. Much like most stuff you'd call emotional would not belong to the genre of "emo," which would more aptly be described as "whinerock."

 

[affinityband]

Weak come back....

I have a question on your what is progressive music theory...

When a band comes out with a new progressive sound you will call them progressive so what happens when they have a follow up disc that doesn't change that much?

I would say for a start how on earth did you deem them a progressive band if they dont actually progress. Sure the meanings arent the same in terms of music, but that should be a serious fundemental. Infact it should be for anyband.
'prog' just leaves schoolgirls like yourself naming everyband under the sun that thinks that clean and distortion parts in 'metal' is progressive.

 

[Liquid Tension]

I would say for a start how on earth did you deem them a progressive band if they dont actually progress. Sure the meanings arent the same in terms of music, but that should be a serious fundemental. Infact it should be for anyband.
'prog' just leaves schoolgirls like yourself naming everyband under the sun that thinks that clean and distortion parts in 'metal' is progressive.

Now I'm a school girl?

Some of you people really need to get out....

I'll stick with how the rest of the music world uses the term and who those school girls claim to be as progressive... I'm sorry thast doesn't please you so much that need to resort to childish name calling....

 

[wankerness]

I would say for a start how on earth did you deem them a progressive band if they dont actually progress. Sure the meanings arent the same in terms of music, but that should be a serious fundemental. Infact it should be for anyband.
'prog' just leaves schoolgirls like yourself naming everyband under the sun that thinks that clean and distortion parts in 'metal' is progressive.

Jesus christ, what the fuck else are you going to call shitty music with bonky keyboards and fancy time sigs and annoying wuss vocals and concept albums about magic bald guys and armadillo tanks like Spock's Beard or ELP? It's firmly established by basically everyone on the fucking planet that that stuff is called "prog rock." It's prog rock whether it's "progressive" in the sense of innovating or developing or not. Progressive is an adjective, prog rock is a genre and the two are frequently mutually exclusive. Just like emotional and emo. If a band is actually innovative then call it innovative or say they're "actually progressive" or avant garde or something, if you say prog rock HAS TO BE "PROGRESSIVE" then you have just disqualified 99.9% of bands that get called prog rock, leaving them with no possible genre name besides "copy of prog rock that isn't progressive and needs to be called this because I demand the phrase progressive rock be taken literally."

 

[all_sins_undone]

hes right affinertybhand

 

[affinityband]

Yeah from what wankerness has said, it makes alot of sense. And its very true that alot of these 'prog' bands are very cheesy. But the fact is that the bands that originally started this argument was:
Wolverine
Riverside
I.N.D.U.K.T.I.
Dark Suns
Nevermore
Disillusion
Empyrean Sky


Now, my original notition for starting this argument was that those bands werent in the least bit 'prog'. But maybe my point about how a band has to be 'progressive' to be 'prog' was a bit broad. But what i quoted was that Liquid tension used the word progressive rather than 'prog'. So i took it as a chance to answer his question on how ''When a band comes out with a new progressive sound you will call them progressive so what happens when they have a follow up disc that doesn't change that much?''. I thought he was talking about them being innovative rather than using the term as a genre.