Death Metal

[Mort Divine]

Sure it isn't fair, but I was just making an example as to atmosphere in DM, something I've always felt was fake in the case of Nile.

You can't dismiss metalcore as a completely unsubstantive genre, otherwise it shows your ignorance of the style completely. Sure you've got bands like Trivium, As I Lay Dying, and Bullet For My Valentine who have zero substance to them, but then you've got bands like Buried Inside who take upon themselves the massive pressure of writing a concept album on time itself, and execute it with simply professional ease, Starkweather, Prayer for Cleansing, Maroon, etc all of which are substantive and good bands.

Not that it is even remotely "fair" to compare metalcore and my reasons for listening to that with death metal.

 

[Dazed and Brutal]

Nile are one of the few brutal death bands I can listen to, but I get bored of em really quick. I agree with Big Dave in that ITDS is their best album.

 

[skeptik]

Sure it isn't fair, but I was just making an example as to atmosphere in DM, something I've always felt was fake in the case of Nile.

You can't dismiss metalcore as a completely unsubstantive genre, otherwise it shows your ignorance of the style completely. Sure you've got bands like Trivium, As I Lay Dying, and Bullet For My Valentine who have zero substance to them, but then you've got bands like Buried Inside who take upon themselves the massive pressure of writing a concept album on time itself, and execute it with simply professional ease, Starkweather, Prayer for Cleansing, Maroon, etc all of which are substantive and good bands.

Not that it is even remotely "fair" to compare metalcore and my reasons for listening to that with death metal.

My point was that there is plenty of music that you listen to that lacks substance and you know this full well, and then you use that criticism against Nile for not liking them. Which is retarded. Because there's no way in hell that anyone could like Raunchy more than Nile.

 

[Mort Divine]

I don't even really like Raunchy too much anymore, BUT I would say that I like them more than Nile - even if Nile are better from an objective point of view.

I like substanceless stuff for instant gratification that more ... developed and full music can't provide, and when music fails at providing the instant gratification when it is generally substanceless there is a problem there.

 

[The Ozzman]

My point was that there is plenty of music that you listen to that lacks substance and you know this full well, and then you use that criticism against Nile for not liking them. Which is retarded. Because there's no way in hell that anyone could like Raunchy more than Nile.

I like Raunchy more than Nile.

 

[ohiogrinder]

I don't understand what the big deal is with Kataklysm.

omg here we go again. you're a cool dude, you just gotta stop instigating shit.

 

[Krigloch the Furious]

Its hilarious how people call Nile a gimmick band. morons.

 

[CF87]

omg here we go again. you're a cool dude, you just gotta stop instigating shit.

make me!

 

[Hell Awaits Us All]

Comparing a pseudo-brutal modern death metal band to the originators and unique leaders of the european strain of death metal in the early 90s is just retarded. I'm amazed that you can listen to metalcore and various other things that lack any substance and then just dismiss Nile wholesale. Nile is actually a decent band, though it's not my preferred style, and they get very few plays. Sometimes the Egyptian melodies are gratuitous, but generally they do a decent job with integrating it into the songs themselves and into the greater album as a whole.

Look, you've got me defending Nile now. What the fuck...

I don't see how nile lacks substance though, their songwriting is great.

 

[Crimson Velvet]

Are you sure 'great' isn't bit of a overstatement? When I think of great song writing in death metal, The Chasm, early At the Gates and God Macabre come to mind, rather than Nile. They have always seemed rather standard to me, with their own little gimmick to set them apart. 'Adequate' song writing seems more reasonable, as it is not bad, as far as I can tell, yet not too special either.

 

[CF87]

Nile is like the mummy returns again prt 5 'the mummy is returning again'.

 

[Hell Awaits Us All]

Are you sure 'great' isn't bit of a overstatement? When I think of great song writing in death metal, The Chasm, early At the Gates and God Macabre come to mind, rather than Nile. They have always seemed rather standard to me, with their own little gimmick to set them apart. 'Adequate' song writing seems more reasonable, as it is not bad, as far as I can tell, yet not too special either.

ITDS is the best piece of "epic" death metal I have ever heard (right up there with augury and lykathea), though the other albums are slightly above average and that's about it.

In terms of modern DM, nile is one of the best. I certainly wouldn't compare it to the classics like immolation, atheist, morbid angel, etc... but that's beside the point.

 

[Hell Awaits Us All]

speaking of chasm

"the spell of retribution" is fucking great.

 

[Krigloch the Furious]

I agree with Dave, Nile has great songwriting. but im a fanboy and cant really be part of this arguement

 

[CF87]

Anyone else heard Vomiturition ?. Really obscure older death metal. I would like to eventually get my hands on a left over and head tales.

http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=B63DD15572B8EBDC

 

[Perpetual Catatonia]

Are you sure 'great' isn't bit of a overstatement? When I think of great song writing in death metal, The Chasm, early At the Gates and God Macabre come to mind, rather than Nile. They have always seemed rather standard to me, with their own little gimmick to set them apart. 'Adequate' song writing seems more reasonable, as it is not bad, as far as I can tell, yet not too special either.

I don't see what's so great about Nile either. All their songs (on the three albums I downloaded) sound the same. They just seem like a slightly faster Cannibal Corpse to me. Plus, they're on Ozzfest. LAWLZ!!!

 

[Dazed and Brutal]

Anyone else heard Vomiturition ?. Really obscure older death metal. I would like to eventually get my hands on a left over and head tales.

http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=B63DD15572B8EBDC

Pretty good.

 

[Slayed Necros]

Anyone else heard Vomiturition ?. Really obscure older death metal. I would like to eventually get my hands on a left over and head tales.

http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=B63DD15572B8EBDC

Cheers, this isn't bad at all.

Edit: I've listened to this a few times and I'm enjoying it immensely. I'm quite surprised I've never even heard of the band before. Thanks again, Greys.

 

[Crapples]

^
Never heard of that band either. Awesome song. I found the full album on some blog if anyone's interested (pm me). Listening to it now.

 

[ohiogrinder]

hey Cody, do you know where I can pick up a copy of Desultory's Into Eternity? google isn't very helpful.