you do realize suffo is one of the best DM bands around in terms of musicianship?
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you do realize suffo is one of the best DM bands around in terms of musicianship?
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Well, Behemoth is planning on releasing their new album "The Apostasy" on July 17th, so that should be a start...
yes, I can't wait for Nile's Ithyphallic
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Well, Behemoth is planning on releasing their new album "The Apostasy" on July 17th, so that should be a start...
yes, I can't wait for Nile's Ithyphallic
I hope it's better than Annihilation of the Wicked. That album is boring as shit.
What the fuck? Apart from the entirety of Breeding Death (EP), that song > all.
trey azagtoth, chuck schuldiner, james murphy, terrance hobbs, etc... etc... are all much better than Blakkheim
@ greysie
Larry Lalonde, Alf Svennson and Anders Björler, Allen West, and on, and on, and on -
'death metal guitarists more talented than Blakkheim' ain't exactly a short list.
Two other incredibly mediocre bands whose songs are considerably less than the sum of their parts.
Let's kill two birds with one stone, shall we?
Behemoth and Lykathea Aflame (the former especially) are both highly derivative of Morbid Angel, as is Nile. If your knowledge of death metal is limited to nowadays bullshit and Cannibal Corpse, you need to bone up on the actual classics. Until then, shut the fuck up and stop wasting bandwidth with your moronic assertions.
There are no 'middle eastern scales' in the work of Nile OR Lykathea Aflame, it's the same chromatic scale that everyone in metal has used since, oh, Black Sabbath. Lykathea Aflame is no better than Nile, and just as fucking gimmicky.
Behemoth and Lykathea Aflame (the former especially) are both highly derivative of Morbid Angel, as is Nile. If your knowledge of death metal is limited to nowadays bullshit and Cannibal Corpse, you need to bone up on the actual classics. Until then, shut the fuck up and stop wasting bandwidth with your moronic assertions.
There are no 'middle eastern scales' in the work of Nile OR Lykathea Aflame, it's the same chromatic scale that everyone in metal has used since, oh, Black Sabbath. Lykathea Aflame is no better than Nile, and just as fucking gimmicky.
I was mainly implying that newer generation brutal death metal guitarists are not even 10% as talented as Blakkheim, not that he's better than every US death metal guitarist or he's the most talented death metal guitarist.
Obituary has long been noted for its top notch lead work - with or without James Murphy. Lead playing is far and away the best indicator of a guitarist's skill level.
Not to mention the fact that West can actually, you know, write songs, a talent which has utterly eluded a hack like Blakkheim.
Allen has about two solos and riffs and sounds like such a lazy guitarist. It does not even sound like he practices or anything.
how is either band mediocre you moron? augury's instrumental, vocal, and songwriting ability is some of the best in DM today. Talent wise, very few bands are even close.
And stop talking to me about MA, that was the first DM band I ever started listening (along with death). I realize there are some similarities to MA, but there's about 5,000 Death metal bands that are similar to MA, so you don't have much of a point. Nile is still a very original band.
His rhythm playing fits in the context of a band that was always about weight rather than precision, but his leads are clean and complex, great stuff. Certainly better than the work of a guy who has never been party to a single classic recording.
Besides Bloodbath have you heard his project Diabolical Masquerade ?
If you think Allen west is even 5% as good you don't know what you are talking. Do not talk about guitar playing ever.
If you think Allen west is even 5% as good you don't know what you are talking. Do not talk about guitar playing ever.
Talent is first and foremost the ability to compose - Varg Vikernes is infinitely more talented in a real sense than the overwhelming majority of death metal bands despite barely being able to bar a chord. Augury may have some instrumental skill, but they couldn't write their way out of a paper bag, which is why their music sounds like a disjointed collection of leftover parts.
Sure it is, which is why you display nearly as much knowledge of death metal as your average Avril fan, right?
Which is precisely the point - Nile sound just like the average of 5,000 other bands, but with some sound effects shoehorned in by computer. That's not originality in any meaningful sense - it's certainly not the paradigm shift you're arguing for.
DM was a Dissection clone with a few spasmodic 'post-black metal' gestures. They were an absolute non-entity.
Allen West wrote two classic albums, Blakkheim wrote nothing of significance. By definition, West is simply better. Besides, it's not like Bloodbath isn't itself bog simple.
may have some instrumental skill? how about having one of the best rhythm sections in all of death metal with Dominic "Forest" Lapointe and Étienne Gallo?
their songwriting is quite brilliant actually, many mood changes, very heavy and very melodic. Alot of very memorable solos (especially in "beatus") Nice variety and then you have the masterpiece epic "lair of purity". This band plays excellent progressive/epic death metal
Blakkheim has laid guitar down on 15 fullength albums and has tremendous skill,talent and diversity.
Allen has about 3 solos and 3 death metal riffs he stole from celtic frost and played on some Obituary cds and is one of the most sloppy generic crappy redundant guitarist.
Go buy a guitar and shut up. You really have no idea what you are talking about.
I don't care if the drummer has 16 arms and a kit that stretches from Montreal to Buffalo, it has no relevance to whether they make good music or not.
Sure it is, which is why it sounds like a retard had a seizure near some instruments.
None of which connect to the others to create anything more than mood changes. There's no coherent concept tying any one part to another. That's not brilliant songwriting, it's classic prog metal masturbation. BOOOOOOORRRRRRRIIIIIING!
I am not talking purely about technical proficiency fucktard (although as you eluded, both are as good as you will ever find). The drummer is tremendously talented in terms of playing with groove and also playing alot of fairly original and interesting rhythms. The bassist is one of the best in DM. All the musicians play with tremendous emotion
nah, you're just an idiot. Their songwriting is very effective
actually the mood changes are highly effective, the songs flow very well despite having so many different parts (IE the classical intro to some brutal riffing in "beatus" or the intro to "lair of purity" followed by some slightly heavier parts and then some melodic parts with female/male clean vocals followed by an excellent instrumental outro.)
They do have alot of different parts, and instead of sounding like a jumbled mess, it is actually very clear and precise.
