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I agree with you. That's my point, I will give credit when it's due...and oddly enough I do. (Even though I've said this twice you seem to believe I don't.)but that is just BS. It happens a lot too. A quick google search will pull up a thousand of these "sampling" complaints in the news...Timberland was the first to come up, stealing his music from all over the world, then calling the artist he stole it from names.....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007_Timbaland_plagiarism_controversy

It happens a lot. Someone of the greatest songs from around the world is stolen for the next and greatest hit.
I am not saying all of em do it. I am saying many, most do.

Also not a lot of hip-hop artist use real instruments, some do, percussion mainly. But the boom boom thud thud you hear is a prerecorded bass beat changed for each song (although it kind of all sounds the same to me, boom boom nigga, boom boom bitches, boom boom gin, boom boom, shoot a motherfucker up) I live in a predominately "rap" listening to community and I hear it all day. As they drive down the street, my neighbors...

One of the things that kills me the most is people remaking and old song and KILLING it...Christine Auglaria (sp?) Redid Etta James's "At Last" One of the most beautiful songs ever and destroyed it...ugh that shit kills me. Korn doing Floyd's "Comfortably Numb" and killing it.

A shit ton of "artists" today steal from other music, or re do the song entirely and kill it. I am also not saying it doesn't happen in Rock/Metal I am sure it does. But I doubt you will hear of AA or Bloodbath being sued by Brittney Spears..because they "sampled" Oops I did it again.

Yes I can read by the way. Hard to believe for a close-minded, idiotic tool, I know. :rolleyes:
 
No. MOST rappers do not sample full songs like that. That's a fact, so stop saying otherwise. I can drop 50 rappers right now that don't "steal" other people's music (and fyi, it's not stealing, these rappers got the license to use this music from the publisher/label legally).
 
I'm not going to try to force my opinon onto anyone, but I think 99% of rap music would be better if it was just a loud as bass and drums without any talking. I also do not think hip hop is culture.
 
Ross said:
I agree with nearly all of WAIF's comments but seriously, programmed drums an instrument? that is stupid.
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Programmed drums require less skill - raw muscle memory - to play, true, but just as much talent - the ability to create interesting music - to compose. Meshuggah's drummer, for example, chooses to use programmed drums in studio because they open up possibilities that would otherwise be closed off by human limitations (that Meshuggah are boring as shit is another story).

Vilewoman said:
If you are SINGING yes, but talking fast is by no means music. Sorry. That's calling an auctioneer a musician. He's got talent to talk so fast, that I will agree to but it's still not music.
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If you think rapping is just talking fast you're out of your mind. It requires an extremely strong sense of rhythm and a very loose tongue. A lot of rap isn't even that fast.

Keyboards is, it's derives from a piano. This is an instrument. It has prerecorded beats to which you can add to your music, but it still requires some musical knowledge to operate.
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Because rap songs are fabricated using some sort of mysterious machine which generates beats and keyboard lines.

Again, you're equating skill with talent. Just because it's not hard to actually do something doesn't mean it's easy to figure out that you should do it. Example; someone was looking at a piece by Andy Warhol and said "I could do that." Someone standing nearby said "but you didn't." Any fucking dumbass could play the classic Beatles songs, but could they write them?

They use a soundboard....In my youth, I was into the rap/hip-hop things for a while :oops: :O
I went to a friends "recording" session. The entire song was done a computer.
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Are you one of those protools haters who thinks that protools has a button that makes everything sound awesome? A computer merely makes it easier to turn what's in your head into sound. You still have to get it in your head, which is what we call talent.

bathory... said:
I also do not think hip hop is culture.
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Hip-hop is definitely a culture, more so than metal is.
 
I am so done hearing, arguing and talking about this. I would rather not have a fucking discussion about how awesome rap and hip-hop is in a DEATH METAL thread, on Amon Amarth Forum on Ultimate Metal.

No I still do not agree with you guys, no I don't think it's talent at all. Yes I think they "sample" often and are extremely unoriginal. An argument here will not change that. If you guys wanna talk about how awesome it is, post videos, or drop 50 rappers names, please find a hip-hop board and chat there.

Call me every name you can think of to further your cause, honestly...you think it's going to hurt me into liking rap?
 
Vilewoman said:
I am so done hearing, arguing and talking about this. I would rather not have a fucking discussion about how awesome rap and hip-hop is in a DEATH METAL thread, on Amon Amarth Forum on Ultimate Metal.

No I still do not agree with you guys, no I don't think it's talent at all. Yes I think they "sample" often and are extremely unoriginal. An argument here will not change that. If you guys wanna talk about how awesome it is, post videos, or drop 50 rappers names, please find a hip-hop board and chat there.

Call me every name you can think of to further your cause, honestly...you think it's going to hurt me into liking rap?
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Careful, lady. I've got my gore metal panties on again.
 
DamageInc. said:
:OMG::OMG: who is callin Slipknot Death Metal??? I do like the old stuff, but Death Metal? honestly in no way not even kind of close :zombie:
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Lol, they're no-where near.
Closer to effin rap then Death metal.

AND LISTEN TO THIS
When Trivium released Shogun, youtubers were commenting that it was death metal.

No joke.
 
So back on the DM topic...anyone else heard Night In Gales (or maybe Nightingales) Nailwork album? Fucking weird in that the music seems to be conventional melodic death metal but it's somehow not or something. Also, they really like sharp objects. And jamming words together.

Nightingales - Blades To Laughter said:
if blades were laughter
each nail a smile
my scissorsmouth
would spit the soil
for words of napalm
none below
for hymenmurmur's
poisonshow
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Nightingales - Filthfinger said:
from downsideslides to sunfuckcroons
from syringesongs to dustthroatfuel
from nonwordwork to raincunttunes
from silverpills to warpwallrooms
filthfinger's takin' / twistin' the wounds
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Some of the weirdest lyrics I've come across.
 
WAIF, in what aspects is hip-hop culture? Wearing clothes too big for you, using improper grammar and listening to rap music. Is that it? I don't think anyone called metal a culture.
 
If you don't think there is a hip-hop culture then there's really no point explaining it to you. Just because you don't approve of it doesn't mean it's not a culture.
 
The fact that any of you bring hip-hop into a thread like this is beyond me.

Now shut the fuck up and get things right for once.
 
So much ignorance makes me a sad panda.



I've been listening to Eucharist, Mithras and Augury a fair bit the past few days.
 
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