Digging up the anwers from you "The Improvement"

[Lamia]

I have to make an amendment to my previous post...

17. What is wickedest thing you have ever eaten?
Definately German milk. I bought some German milk on the ferry from Denmark to Germany on our way to Wacken this summer. I thought it would ease my rather hangoverish feeling, but the thing had 5% of fat in it! How can anyone drink that stuff?! It's like drinking jelly made of milk.

 

[Child of Time]

Yech! I can hardly drink Swedish standard milk (1,5% fat)... FIVE percent? That sounds disgusting.

 

[Malaclypse]

5%? normal is 3.5, fat-reduced 1,5... maybe you bought condense milk, you know, that stuff you put in your coffee?

 

[fireangel]

I like it too, but I often wonder how I manage to bring together satanism and socialism. It's quite contradictory, if you think twice about it.

Carl--->

as if people within (!) the same political group wouldn´t contradict each others all the time ....


ah, contradictions are fun!

 

[hyena]

let me just state that satanism rules, if anything because of the sheer ridiculousness of it. i remember being 15 and trying to convince my father that the dark powers opposing God were an interesting choice indeed. he just said satanasso, with a very strong mock redneck accent which reminded me of the old ladies in our village speaking of the devil in horrified tones. i laughed so hard that i was put off satanism forever.

 

[rahvin]

let me just state that satanism rules, if anything because of the sheer ridiculousness of it. i remember being 15 and trying to convince my father that the dark powers opposing God were an interesting choice indeed. he just said satanasso, with a very strong mock redneck accent which reminded me of the old ladies in our village speaking of the devil in horrified tones. i laughed so hard that i was put off satanism forever.

this smoothly answers a question put forward in the book "the name of the rose" by umberto eco.

 

[Steve]

I hate satanism.
Any religion is a waste of everything.

 

[Salamurhaaja]

Satanism is a filosophy, not a religion, satanism is not
really worshipping anything but your own indulgence.
Which is pretty much the opposite of christian teaching,
which is why most people think that satanism has
something to do with Satan, most satanists don't even
believe in Satan.

 

[Arch]

Eh. That's just a LaVeyian viewpoint of Satanism. He's doing nothing more than slapping together other people's ideas and pagan rituals and branding it with an uber-cool name like "satanism".

 

[Child of Time]

@Steve: I guess you're thinking about devil-worshipping. That's something different.

The name "satanism" was taken in use when the pope condemned several authors (for example Lord Byron and Mary Shelley) under the 19th century who were living quite wild and unrestrained. The pope called them satanists, and these author's resoned like: "If the pope says it, then it must be so", and called therefore themselves satanists.

Source: The Chairman/High Priest of SSK (Svenska SatanistKyrkan, Swedish Church of Satanism)(I've interwieved him ).

 

[Salamurhaaja]

LeVey isn't much more than a charlatan
and yes, you are right, he is taking ideas from many
sources, but I wasn't talking about him anyways

 

[Lamia]

5%? normal is 3.5, fat-reduced 1,5... maybe you bought condense milk, you know, that stuff you put in your coffee?

It very well could've been that... I don't know a word in German, and I just bought a can that looked like it contained milk. :Smug:

Fat-reduced has 1,5% fat in it?! The same stuff in Finland has 0,0-0,1% fat. Now that's what I call low fat.

 

[rahvin]

ladies and gentlemen, finally milk and satan are in the same thread together again! it happened last time four hundred years ago in the now lost (but not forgotten) some of my cows are possessed and i found brimstone in the manure thread.

 

[fireangel]

It very well could've been that... I don't know a word in German, and I just bought a can that looked like it contained milk. :Smug:

yes, I have to agree with VultureCulture, I think it was a misunderstanding between you and the milk packages. We are not that weird folks

Fat-reduced has 1,5% fat in it?! The same stuff in Finland has 0,0-0,1% fat. Now that's what I call low fat.

Yep. Ei oo rasvatonta (partitiivi?) maitoa saksassa. Miss it aswell.

 

[rahvin]

yes, I have to agree with VultureCulture, I think it was a misunderstanding between you and the milk packages.

milk cartons never understand me in the first place, so i think it's very selfish of them to ask for my understanding in return. did they ever take the time to actually look deeper inside me and scratch the surface of what was visible at first sight? there's more in me than meets the eye, and milk cartons just dismiss me as if i had nothing to say. i'd really like to get more into milk cartons, but as long as they don't make the effort to open themselves up to me, i'm sorry but it's just a losing game.

 

[opacity]

i came to the thought (it's only a thought yet..... YET! ) that all satanic sects/churches/philosophies are nothing else than the summary of all "qliphoth" , but heading for the same goal: knowledge (Da'ath) and finally finding this "ultimate and eternal all and everything". only they start from the qliphotic side of life.
there's some important accordances to find in "satanistic" statements and kabbalah-interpretations (also theosophy/anthroposophy).

hm.


yeah.




opi/ <- but actually not this

 

[Lamia]

Yep. Ei oo rasvatonta (partitiivi?) maitoa saksassa. Miss it aswell.

Eikä salmiakkia!! Miten sä oikein selviät?!

@rahvin: Aww... poor you. I know the milk cartons can be real jerks sometimes... first refusing to open up, then bursting out and spilling their contents to the floor... but hey, I don't think it's anything personal.

 

[rahvin]

@opi: how can people assume they're going to get credibility as some all-encompassing uber-philosophy when they associate themselves in name with the rather preposterous, pagan-influenced and at times radically ludicrous alter ego of a very specific god in a very specific religion?
you want to be qliphothic? then un-label yourself, come up with some original ideas (possibly not implying crystal pyramids, because i hate crystal pyramids), take a huge step away from being a middle finger raised in the face of christianity (or any other religion) and then start qliphothing as hard as you can.

@lamia: it's particularly hurting when they start spilling all over after you try to have them open up. i mean, it's their own shit to take, i can't solve all their problems. then they complain they feel empty.

 

[opacity]

@ravin:
- i'm not "qliphotic".
- and they get credibility for reasons that i can just guess.
- what you mean with "un-label yourself" ?
- i don't need (to invent) original ideas; the idea is already given. it's the interpretations that are numerous

- "take a huge step away from being a middle finger raised in the face of christianity (or any other religion) and then start qliphothing as hard as you can."
please explain


and yes of course they use all kinds of already existing believes, there's nothing new to invent, what for in the first place? the aim is the same. - they're just picking up the "negative" aspects of various believes; all beliefs have the same main statement/promise. they differ only in interpretation (and thus aproach) and imagination of "eternity" and "the ultimate".

 

[rahvin]

@ravin:
- i'm not "qliphotic".
- and they get credibility for reasons that I don't know but which i can only guess.
- what you mean with "un-label yourself" ?
- i don't need (to invent) original ideas; the idea is already given. it's the interpretations that are numerous

- "take a huge step away from being a middle finger raised in the face of christianity (or any other religion) and then start qliphothing as hard as you can."
please explain

oh, you just mistook my use of a generic "you", i wasn't really associating you=opi to anything. so yes, i know you're not qliphothic - although it should be interesting to see you qliphoth around a bit: after all you're always sober - and i wasn't suggesting you should be the one coming up with new ideas. i was talking about those who call themselves satanists and do not fall into the hack'n'slash category of chicken-sacrificing, hood-wearing tools. i was just suggesting those who wanted to be closer to some serious philosophy to take references to hilarious goat-headed punks out of their vocabulary. i can hardly believe you (opi) are in league with the devil, because what would that ever make of ivan?