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[AllShallFall]

Opeth is gay.

The fuck?

 

[AllShallFall]

If a band somewhat changes style, that doesn't mean they're a bad band. It's fucking idiotic to think that.

 

[Werckmeister Harmonies]

If a band somewhat changes style, that doesn't mean they're a bad band. It's fucking idiotic to think that.

Come again?!

 

[AllShallFall]

Come again?!

It's immature to stop liking a band because they've put out an album different from the previous one(s). If bands stayed the exact same style over a long career, they would sound stale and boring. A band needs to musically evolve to stay good.

 

[Westsiyeed]

If bands stayed the exact same style over a long career, they would sound stale and boring.

I agree, but it's still personal taste. I love Watershed and like and appreciate what they've done with Heritage (and also love Blackwater Park).

But hell, look at ACDC as an example - countless albums that sound the same (especially in their later career) but they still have a huge fanbase. The fans know and expect the next album to be the same style and sound.

 

[PhlegethonVeins]

It's immature to stop liking a band because they've put out an album different from the previous one(s).

It's not immature. Some people will like the newer sounds, and some won't. Not liking a direction a band goes is purely up to personal taste. It is however immature to expect a band to pander to whatever the person wants of them. Those however, are two different things.

 

[SomeGuyDude]

It's immature to stop liking a band because they've put out an album different from the previous one(s). If bands stayed the exact same style over a long career, they would sound stale and boring. A band needs to musically evolve to stay good.

It's similarly idiotic to praise a band for a new sound simply because it's different than their previous sound. There's a vast difference between building upon previous albums and shedding all the enjoyable aspects of them.

Opeth was a band who had a fucking awesome blend of melodic rock and death metal and slowly tossed off all the metal elements of their sound in the interest of incredibly uninspired "prog" sounds. No one hates on Opeth simply because they changed, the issue is that their quote-unquote "evolution" went nowhere enjoyable.

Like, there are bands like Ulcerate, Anaal Nathrakh, or Enslaved who take the sounds they began with and improve upon them. Not every attempt is a success, but it's good. Opeth did not improve. They homogenized their sound and now are a dull prog-metal wannabe. "Heritage" isn't even good on its own merits. It's dull, lifeless, and easily forgotten.

 

[gundamterran]

Opeth post-Still Life isn't good on its own merits. -_-

 

[PhlegethonVeins]

 

[wandering_taco]

I love everything before Heritage. Stuff from Heritage is cool live, but it's never something I sit down and listen to. I don't even own it.

 

[matt schrauben]

I've never heard an Opeth album I didn't love, and that includes Heritage. Sure, some albums are better than others, but I like it all.

 

[Dak]

BWP is clearly the pinnacle of Opeth. Watershed was a by-the-numbers uninspired etc etc



Oh look I fell for another Opeth conversation.

 

[Funerary_Doom]

Lol. BWP is their best. But I honestly liked a lot of songs from Damnation too. Sure it was much slower paced than their other albums but, it was definitely inspired. With Watershed I'm 50/50 because there are some memorable musicality in the songs but sometimes he just takes too long to get to the fucking point. That has always been a problem I've had with Opeth to be honest. Though I sometimes like their music, I oftentimes see myself liking songs rather than entire albums because the music sometimes takes too long to progress for me.

Heritage was boring. I literally found a chair and FELL ASLEEP at their last concert where they played nothing but songs off of Heritage (and maybe 3 songs that were mildly decent). That's just not something I'm interested in hearing. I also think Heritage is very "forced" and it strikes me as pretentious in a way. Sort of trying to be something that it is not.

 

[JonNoH]

well this was interesting

anyone have an album recommendation for the acoustic melody Im after?

 

[Eligos]

Damnation.

 

[AllShallFall]

I've never heard an Opeth album I didn't love, and that includes Heritage. Sure, some albums are better than others, but I like it all.

Well said.

 

[crimsonfloyd]

If a band somewhat changes style, that doesn't mean they're a bad band. It's fucking idiotic to think that.

The issue, for me at least, isn't that they changed genres, but rather that they went from being excellent to being mediocre. I love prog rock and simply put, Heritage is a very mediocre prog rock album.

 

[Matt]

Ghost Reveries is a masterpiece. BWP is a close second.

I thought Watershed was pretty good too, though not as good as GR or BWP.

 

[The Ozzman]

My Arms, Your Hearse

 

[EyeballKid]

To be fair, I've only been listening to Opeth for about a year, so those of you who discount my opinion based on my length of association with the band can stop reading now.

I find their early efforts to be somewhat uninspired and sophomoric, though enjoyable. Orchid, Morningrise, and My Arms, Your Hearse sound like death metal-infused power metal. The band hasn't figured out their exact sound yet, but they've clearly got something interesting going on. They figured it out on Still Life, perfected their sound on Blackwater Park, deviated slightly with Deliverance and Damnation (both of which would have made one great album if cut in half and combined), and finally realized their songwriting prowess on Ghost Reveries (an absolute treasure). Watershed is a natural evolution of Ghost Reveries, and a very good album. Heritage is, like Deliverance and Damnation before it, an experiment. People are mostly upset because this experiment may become the future evolution of the band, and that challenges their beloved first impression of Opeth. Oh well. Their music is good no matter what.