Lachybob
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I apologize for the last few posts for anyone who saw them, long story involving my vengeful ex, sure yous can imagine. Anyways sorry again
^ good points. People have different morals and ethics, and will abide by what they think is right. In the long run people are just gonna do whatever they feel they should, whether its right or not, based on their own morals. Theres no need for people to manipulate peoples arguements to suit their own, because in the long run your not changing anyones opinions. Basically we are going to go back and forth with people who have downloaded music illegally justifying it to those who havent, and those who havent trying to guilt those who clearly arent gonna feel guilty.
I downloaded BWP and then I entered Opeth.
Later I bought GR limited edition (which is VERY rare and expensive in my country, since it's imported because nobody releases opeth cds here)
not that i advocate leakage, but why on earth have RR waited so long to release this. We have to wait another month and this was leaked at least a week ago.
Surely the best thing to do is release as soon as possible, minimising piracy. The longer people have to wait, the more likely they will give in and download the leaked album.
can anyone explain why record companies wait so long to release? its not as if it hasn't been mastered or the artwork hasn't been decided is it???
Good for you. I've also been to every Opeth show in my country. All............. one of them. The fact is that bands do not play everywhere in the world. Just because they make less money when you buy a cd than a concert ticket, doesn't mean they don't deserve that money as well.
Look at bands like Agalloch or Summoning, bands that have limited (if any) touring schedules. What, would you not buy anything of theirs (assuming you like them, of course) just because they don't play in your area? That's ridiculously small minded.
Too many people think that they deserve to have all the albums that they want, as if the musician owes it to them. "Why should I buy it? It's expensive, I've got better things to spend on, and why shouldn't I download it? I mean, I'm a fan. That gives me every right to steal".
I can't belive that I'm lecturing people who are probably older than me on postponement of gratification.
not that i advocate leakage, but why on earth have RR waited so long to release this. We have to wait another month and this was leaked at least a week ago.
Surely the best thing to do is release as soon as possible, minimising piracy. The longer people have to wait, the more likely they will give in and download the leaked album. It makes no sense.
can anyone explain why record companies wait so long to release? its not as if it hasn't been mastered or the artwork hasn't been decided is it???
Just like any other product in order to get the CD on the shelves of all of the stores on the same day there are a lot of logistics. Leaks usually occur when the cd is being mass produced or at any stage between then and the distriubution of the album... so the company can't release it any earlier or it will just get leaked earlier. This also helps give them time to publish critics reviews and increase marketing...
Is TheCrackedJack gone now, after "punching holes" in my arguments?
Good.
Look, it doesn't take a genius to figure out that you are manipulating meaning in order to take advantage of a "grey area" that, truly, isn't that grey when you think about it. Whether you actually want to abide by morality is the point. If you can convince yourself that illegal downloading isn't stealing, you are, I think, pretty morally bankrupt. While you take nothing away, you take for yourself what was never yours. You are taking something that someone expects to be paid for, band, label, or otherwise. Should they be paid for it? I think so. But that's me. Old school, I guess.
One time, saw a horse taking a leak. It was a humbling experience.