Barking Pumpkin said:
I was watching some of the Live At Budokan and listening to some of the ToT songs, and to kind of sum it up, when Dream Theater tries to be "metal," it sounds basically like a compilation of every silly cliche in the "metal book," and that's not being progressive at all.
Please stop using the word progressive, thanks.
Barking Pumpkin said:
What a laugh. The orchestra on Octavarium is such a gimmick, it sounds like it was played on the synth keyboard, and they could do that live and it would sound exactly the same. Get rid of the fucking ego. Pain Of Salvation actually uses an orchestra, you don't, so just sample it like every other band that doesn't really use an orchestra.
Who said they are playing with an "ORCHESTRA!"?
There are a few strings on this album, nothing more. What were you expecting a DT version of Kayman & Metallica?
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Dream Theater really needed to stop waking and get back to writing actual songs again, and that's just what they did with this album. I don't really like Never Enough, and the lyrics to Sacrified Sons are pretty painful. But I'm really digging everything else.
Panic Attack absolutely smokes.
Jordan finally took a damn vallium and has my favorite solo of his, the Genesis style solo in Octovarium.
For people who keep saying how they miss the early stuff, I just don't see how this is THAT different from what they used to do that was soo amazing (apparently Another Day and Caught in a Web were masterpieces???).
This album certainly isn't going to change the world, but this isn't 20 years ago, DT aren't going to be revolutionary any more.
Although, if you use terms like "not progressive enough" then you need to reevaluate why you listen to music.
Some of you need to realize having expectations or "what you want it to sound like" is a bad thing when listening to new music.