Edwards e-al-128

[eveningninja]

It hardly matters tbh. If you buy an Edwards, prepare to end up with a quality instrument. If you buy an LTD from quality production years, you'll end up with a quality instrument as well. I do still think newer made LTD's aren't too good value-wise what I've seen and played, but maybe some of you have gotten excellent new LTD's and can take a shit on my head.

The differences between an Edwards and an old LTD aren't enough to warrant such arguments. Just get what you think looks sweeter and/or what you can get for a better price.

If it really DOES suck (assuming you purchased online), sell it and buy another/different instrument. After all, as has been said, no two guitars (even of the exact same model) are the same. So don't place such a huge emphasis of importance on something you can't and will never know for sure 'til you play the damn thing.

My personal feeling is that LTD's have a higher chance of being not so great, but many here have great LTD's (including myself), so why try to put down others who have quality instruments? After all, "Edwards" is also just a name. It doesn't necessarily mean anything in itself.


---For what it's worth, my LTD FX-400 is my favorite guitar right now, and it costed me $360 dollars. Feels the best and sounds the best, that is including my Edwards RV. I still lust after a lot of Edwards models, but sometimes you just end up with a fucking quality gem, which by the sounds of it is also Rob's RR24

Out of all the guitars I have ever played (well over 100 by now) it has played better than any of them....and because I got a $1000.00 guitar for $98.00 with the case included, new. So to me it owns all others in playability and price. I know I will never get another guitar for under $100.00 that comes even close to performing like my Jackson.

Definitely not for under $100

 

[nunofrg]

I never said that I have never played an Edwards you idiot.

It's senseless to come with logic or normal arguments because you still think that the more a guitar costs, the better it is, the newer it is, the better it is and you still think that Edwards are handmade. You even think that the HZ-H4 is better than the HZ - H2. Let me guess why? 4 is higher than 2. 90% of those guys here in this forum will tell you that the hz-h4 is the biggest shit. - this is why you know nothing about guitars.

1 year ago LTD was more expensive than Edwards - does it mean LTD was better back then? I don't know much about the new LTD's but I can definitely say that my 2007 LTD is better than the old Edwards because the quality and playability is top notch and I have an OFR whereas old Edwards just have a licensed.

And to confirm srobs statement: If you can't play then even the best guitar in the world would change anything

ahgr dude your damn dumb i must say

ur going to play metal with that guitar right? emg h2 has much lower gain than the h4, which is a passive version of the emg 81. may be a question of taste, but i still prefer the h4 because for its purpose it suits better. because of that i understand nothing about GUITARS (not pickups) lol

ok edwards arent handmade, but the quality of materials and process of making is totally different from ur alexi600

and third, when was the edwards cheaper than the ltd? and if so, how much was the difference? 30e? because im talking about a 500/600 EUROS DIFFERENCE NOW. you think its the same? damn you

that statement is true but if i can or not play guitar is not what we´re talking about so wtf

 

[<Arcane>]

Ok, to all of you. Plz read nunofrg's last comment:

ahgr dude your damn dumb i must say

ur going to play metal with that guitar right? emg h2 has much lower gain than the h4, which is a passive version of the emg 81. may be a question of taste, but i still prefer the h4 because for its purpose it suits better. because of that i understand nothing about GUITARS (not pickups) lol

ok edwards arent handmade, but the quality of materials and process of making is totally different from ur alexi600

and third, when was the edwards cheaper than the ltd? and if so, how much was the difference? 30e? because im talking about a 500/600 EUROS DIFFERENCE NOW. you think its the same? damn you

that statement is true but if i can or not play guitar is not what we´re talking about so wtf

And now tell me where in this comment is ONE SINGLE argument for Edwards.


This is my last thing for you nunofrg:

Just because a pickup has more gain doesn't make it better for metal. If so, everybody would have active pikcups. The HZ-H4 still sounds like shit.

I already said that the Edwards was cheaper last year. 3 years ago the difference was around 300&#8364;.


Let me summarize your stupidness.

- You think new is better than old
- You think more expensive instruments are better than cheaper instruments
- You think Edwards qualityand material is better because it's produced in Japan (how the fuck can you know if the process of making an LTD and Edwards is totally different when you thought Edwards are handmade a few minutes ago? )
- You think the more gain a pickup has, the better it is for metal. Even it's a shitty one
- You think something is better when it looks better
- You think Gotoh tuners are better than Grover

Anything else I should add?

For your information: I don't know why the price of an Edwards guitar is now 500&#8364; more than a few years ago but they are still available for 1000&#8364; and less in Japan. Where they are produced. New. 1000&#8364; or less for an Edwards in Japan. A new LTD 600 is available for the same price in Japan. Think about it. Maybe it has sth to do with new shipping costs or that not much Edwards are produced.

 

[eveningninja]

Amen. With all that said, let us all enjoy a nice piece of chocolate pie:

 

[predator2353]

What do tuners have to do with floyd rose guitars ?

 

[T3h_Killjoy]

And Edwards ain't made in Japan...

 

[<Arcane>]

Ah shit, I totally forgot

So the production went from Japan ESP factory where they are handmade to same factory where ESP CS guitars are build but not handmade to China

Anyone know who came up with this shit that Edwards are made in the same factory ESP CS guitars are produced? I've read it really often. I think that all those fanboys read somewhere that Edwards are made in Japan so they came to the conclusion that they are also produced in the same factory what means they are also handmade.
But that they are made in China too is also new for me because I always thought they were build in a seperate ESP factory in Japan than the CS guitars...

 

[predator2353]

Someone from Japan told me that they only install the hardware and all those little things in Japan. All the other stuff is done is done in China. And to sell better they just label em as Japanese. I am probably repeating myself now but anyways, Edwards are not bad at all.

 

[nunofrg]

oh and just forgot to mention, adding to all the things that make the alexi 600 worse than the al128: alexi 600 has hudge neck dive. edwards doesnt, even with a tiny strap (which is the one im using now). say what you want, but it influences all your playing and its a pain in the ass having a neck dive guitar specially when playing 1h or something live, besides its stupid to have neckdive when its a 1000e guitar we´re talking about.

but yeah, alexi 600 its better than edwards, thats why alexi uses the american model and not the japanese live..

 

[eveningninja]

You must have/played an old version of the LTD AL-600 then. The current strap button locations do not cause neck dive.

This guy still at it....

 

[nunofrg]

You must have/played an old version of the LTD AL-600 then. The current strap button locations do not cause neck dive.

This guy still at it....

really doubt that. which position is it now then? i think the problem is the higher wing, more wood, heavier in a place which influences the neck diving

heres pics that prove they´re in the same position: http://www.themusiczoo.com/images/10-21-10/LTD_Alexi_600_Scythe_White_W09011232_b.jpg the new one

the old model at 1.37min

as you see, they´re in the same position..

anyway heres a video of the guy in the end telling about the neckdive of it. ..


by the way, why music store stopped selling alexis 600 and only sells edwards? and why edwards are 500e more expensive? why is the edwards at the same price range of a jackson demmelition and alexi 600s nowadays you can get for 800e or less no problem? might be a reason..


but ok i keep thinking and alexi 600 might not be MUCH worse than the edwards, but still edwards has a certain level of quality finish that i honestly dont think alexi 600 had, which is still quite good yeah

 

[eveningninja]

The new model you linked has the tail strap button near the center of the V. The old LTD's in those videos you linked has the tail strap button almost at the tip of the upper wing. So, as YOU can see, they are not in the same position.

Old:

New:

 

[srob7001]

by the way, why music store stopped selling alexis 600 and only sells edwards? and why edwards are 500e more expensive? why is the edwards at the same price range of a jackson demmelition and alexi 600s nowadays you can get for 800e or less no problem? might be a reason..


but ok i keep thinking and alexi 600 might not be MUCH worse than the edwards, but still edwards has a certain level of quality finish that i honestly dont think alexi 600 had, which is still quite good yeah

Why can I buy a LTD in the USA from a store and can only get an Edwards online or have to have the ESP custom ordered with shop?

It has nothing to do with the quality of guitar...that is just how the stores work.

They are both great guitars. End of story.

And a strap buttons location should not be the make it or break it before purchasing a guitar. Playability above all else decides it for me. A strap button can be relocated in 5 mins or less.

 

[Gucking Fod]

Fuck you all buy what you want and stfu

 

[Necroraven]

Fuck you all buy what you want and stfu

Suck my monster-cock, faggot.

 

[Gucking Fod]

Suck my monster-cock, faggot.

Very little monster heh