Edwards e-al-128

[nunofrg]

I wish I could give headbutts through the internet to all of you who haven't any idead of what you're talking about.

1. Everybody has his own opinion about guitars and how they should sound so a pickup doesn't make a guitar better or worse. Some people like the hz-fh2, some the hz-h4, some the blackout, etc.... You can buy LTD 600 with every pickup you want.
2. The edwards isn't better just because of the look. I don't know why you guys are so much naive to think that the Edwards is better just because it looks like more than Alexis CS guitars?!?
3. The LTD 600 has original floyd in it whereas the Edwards hasn't. Not the other way.
4. Who says that gotoh tuners are better than grover? The Gotoh 510's are the only superior tuners I know but not the ones Edwards and ESP have. I know a lot of guys which will tell you that Grover tuners are better in general. Also Schaller and Sperzel are better than both imo. Btw... it doesn't matter which tuners those guitars have because of the nut.
5. Schaller straplocks are better than other strap locks? Jesus... Are they made of diamond or what? Btw. I can't find any details about ESP Alexi CS strap locks.
6. LTD 600, Edwards E-AL and ESP Alexi guitars do all exist of the same material/wood so why should the quality of the LTD 600 be worse?!?
7. Who says that all Edwards guitars are handmade? Just because they are build in Japan? Let me tell you something you ignoramus... only ESP CS models are handmade and are produced in the japanese ESP custom-factory. ESP STD and Edwards guitars are mass-production.

1. ok, you want to play metal and prefer the h2 which has less gain, opinions then..

2. well as the guitar is a signature guitar, the closest to the original the better. in your perspective the alexi 200 kicks ass? cuz its totally different from the original alexi very own guitar.

3. your statement is wrong. its the reverse, edwards has the original and alexi dont... i had both dude unlike you

4. gotoh tuners are more expensive and i have a dean vmnt with grover tuners and nowadays they´re not so good like they were. but if grover is better why alexi has gotoh instead of the grovers?

5. thats not what i said. i said edwards has schaller straplocks. the alexi 600 doesnt even have a straplock AT ALL. has a little thing that you can put a normal strap, and doesnt come with a strapLOCK.

6. your statement is wrong again. its like saying the alexi 200 materials are the same as the alexi 600 . as it isnt, the factory still is important.

7. edwards are handmade because its made in the japanese factory where all cs esp are made. its the same place. and its made by the same guys, with the same woods and materials, etc, same procedures. you dont expect theres a little corner in the factory that has all that machines korea factory has to do the same mass production right? the machines and way of constructing and materials and procedures are the same for the edwards AND esp alexi cs. the only difference between edwards and cs alexi is that one says edwards, and other dont, which the price gets much lower and they can sell it much more. i challenge you to grab a esp alexi cs japan and a esp edwards and tell me the differences.

8. why is 500e more expensive? you can buy an alexi 200 and 600 with that.


9. enough said, you can still believe alexi600 made in korea is better than a alexi edwards, its ok for some people to live in lies and fantasy so honestly whatever, believe in what you want. this way you wont feel dumb for having bought the alexi600 so

 

[srob7001]

1. ok, you want to play metal and prefer the h2 which has less gain, opinions then..

2. well as the guitar is a signature guitar, the closest to the original the better. in your perspective the alexi 200 kicks ass? cuz its totally different from the original alexi very own guitar.

3. your statement is wrong. its the reverse, edwards has the original and alexi dont... i had both dude unlike you

4. gotoh tuners are more expensive and i have a dean vmnt with grover tuners and nowadays they´re not so good like they were. but if grover is better why alexi has gotoh instead of the grovers?

5. thats not what i said. i said edwards has schaller straplocks. the alexi 600 doesnt even have a straplock AT ALL. has a little thing that you can put a normal strap, and doesnt come with a strapLOCK.

6. your statement is wrong again. its like saying the alexi 200 materials are the same as the alexi 600 . as it isnt, the factory still is important.

7. edwards are handmade because its made in the japanese factory where all cs esp are made. its the same place. and its made by the same guys, with the same woods and materials, etc, same procedures. you dont expect theres a little corner in the factory that has all that machines korea factory has to do the same mass production right? the machines and way of constructing and materials and procedures are the same for the edwards AND esp alexi cs. the only difference between edwards and cs alexi is that one says edwards, and other dont, which the price gets much lower and they can sell it much more. i challenge you to grab a esp alexi cs japan and a esp edwards and tell me the differences.

8. why is 500e more expensive? you can buy an alexi 200 and 600 with that.


9. enough said, you can still believe alexi600 made in korea is better than a alexi edwards, its ok for some people to live in lies and fantasy so honestly whatever, believe in what you want. this way you wont feel dumb for having bought the alexi600 so

Why are you bringing up the AL-200? It's not even close spec wise to the LTD or Edwards.


LTD Spec from ESP Website:
SPECIFICATIONS CONTROLS
Neck-Thru-Body Construction
25.5" Scale
Alder Body
Maple Neck
Ebony Fingerboard
42mm Locking Nut
Thin U Neck Contour
24 XJ Frets
Black Nickel Hardware
Gotoh Tuners
Floyd Rose Original Bridge
EMG HZ F-H2 p.u.
MM-04 On-Off Boost Switch
Finish: WH w/ BLK Pinstripe & "COBHC" On Back
Volume
MM-04 On-Off Boost Switch


LTD Spec from ESP website:
SPECIFICATIONS CONTROLS
Neck-Thru-Body Construction
25.5" Scale
Alder Body
Maple Neck
Ebony Fingerboard
42mm Locking Nut
Thin U Neck Contour
24 XJ Frets
Black Nickel Hardware
Grover Tuners
Floyd Rose 1000 Series Bridge
EMG HZ F-H2 p.u.
Finish: WH w/ BLK Pinstripe & "COBHC" On Back
Volume

As you can see the only differences are the floyd, tuners, and electronics. That's it. So the guitar itself is same. Same wood and construction, so how can the Edwards be any different?

I really don't feel one is better than the other. We are gettng real particular about things now, when all that really matters is the person behind the guitar and how well you can play it.

I got my LTD for a great deal and it plays fantastic. Same with my RR, and I'm sure if I ever came across an Edwards it would play fantastic. I got both mine combined for less than an Edwards anyways so, I am fine with both of them.

 

[<Arcane>]

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I really don't know what to say. Besides the fact that we're talking about the Alexi 600 and not the 200 - I don't know why you always referring to the Alexi 200 - your "arguments" are based on your own naivete and stubborness.

1. I haven't ever said that I prefer the Hz-H2. I had an Hz-h4, blackout, j50 bc + mm-04, je-1000.. the whole program in my guitars. Nr.2
2. The Alexi 600 is also a signature. If you say that a guitar is better because it looks better you earn the next from me.
3. I own a LTD 600 with a made in germany Floyd. I also did a little research I can't find any page where it says "original FR" in Edwards. Just "fr". Next
4. more expensive = better? next nowadays grover tuners are not so good as they were? next You know shit about tuners.
5. based on your previous comments I imply that you think again more expensive = better next
6. what's going on with the Alexi 200?!? next
7. this is... aww... + 5
8. more expensive = better again? next
9. I have never said that the Alexi 600 is better. Next

Congrats for being the most naive ignorant troll. One extra

Edit:

I think you don't know what custom shop means.
Custom shop guitars, cars or even knifes are all based on the specs the buyer wants to have. We're talking about Alexi guitars right now so all guitars Alexi has are CS guitars because they are all made by his suggestions. They won't go into mass-production. If you buy an Alexi CS, then the guitar is also CS because the effort and the time to produce such a guitar - and also the price - is to high for a mass-production. But you can buy Edwards guitars as much as you want. If you really think that Edwards guitars are made of the same wood, same mechanics, same electronics, same guys, same factory... Why should ESP sell them for 1400k just under another name? And why do you have to wait for a ESP Alexi CS a few weeks whereas you can get an Edwards in a few days? They either have to sell them for 4000 or 1400 bucks but selling a guitar which is a 1:1 copy of the original CS guitar for 2500 bucks less would makes no sense.

Also, if you would just take a look in Wikipedia, you would know that only ESP custom shops guitars are handmade.

About the tuners... It really doesn't matter if those Alexi guitars have Gotoh, Grover, Schaller, ESP, Sperzel,... tuners because all guitars have a neck-lock, so the tuners won't take any effect except a few gramm differnece on the headstock.

About the pickup... Nearly all guys in this forum will tell you that the EMG HZ-H4 sounds like shit.

About the playing... If you would blind-folded play a LTD 600, ESP Alexi STD, ESP Alexi CS, Edwards you can't tell any difference and you definitely can't tell which guitar you had played.

 

[T3h_Killjoy]

no.. rr24 isnt better than edwards. compound radius? edwards and alexi600 have it too.

quality isnt as used to be? lol thats exactly what i would say about jackson since it was bought by fender


what an ignorant post...

obviously you don't know shit. Jackson imports have become hell lot of better since Fender buyout, USA models are the same as they used to be. Edwards and LTD has compound radius ? What do you smoke man ? They have straight up 13.7 or so radius on the fretboard. Also I might ad that you're a cockmuncher.

 

[srob7001]

Ok, I just watched the video nunfrg posted.

Even in the video you posted it says FR-1000 is the bridge...so it doesn't have an OFR.....just thought I'd point that out.

 

[Necroraven]

I don't know, or care shit about LTD/Edwards or ESP so I don't comment on that subject, but the claims about Jacksons getting worse after Fender bought it is horse shit. They are just false rumors originally spread by bitter importers which Fender fired after buying the company. Those claims don't even make any sense, why would guitars get worse when they get a lot bigger corporation to back them up? The only negative difference is that they stopped producing some guitar parts they used to.

 

[srob7001]

I can't comment on older Jackson models as I have never spent much time with one, but the one I have now is the best playing guitar I have ever owned or played and everyone I know with a Jackson says pretty much the same thing. I really think I just like the neck and fretboard on it over all other things. The neck really is the most important thing when it comes to a guitar.

 

[T3h_Killjoy]

And Edwards isn't handmade, if guitar is actually handmade it's price goes way up than Edwards Alexi models cost. Edwards are mass production brand for Japan. Don't forget that.

 

[<Arcane>]

That's what I've said.

 

[snowy]

...If you really think that Edwards guitars are made of the same wood, same mechanics, same electronics, same guys, same factory...

Don't forgot the processin and stuff. They dont take some piece of wood and build a guitar a guitar consists of many little pieces or some big pieces which has a quite great impact of the sound. And then again.. the question is also HOW is this wood put together.

nunf-guy is a dumb person.

 

[MaximHateCrew]

Just look at the neck of the RR24 and the Alexi ones. Both have a maple neck, but the feeling is really different. Even the guitars have the same specifications, that doesn't mean they are the same. Also, every guitar are different. Even when it is about the same model.

 

[T3h_Killjoy]

Sooo no posts from cockmuncher... I think he realized he is owned. Way to go forums !

 

[yahamart]

hey guy i have an Edwards And ltd.....and are the same guitar ..... 2 really great guitar!

 

[Fastbodom]

Ok, I just watched the video nunfrg posted.

Even in the video you posted it says FR-1000 is the bridge...so it doesn't have an OFR.....just thought I'd point that out.

let me explain it to ya

all the Edwards e-al-128 Had Original FLoyd roses
so the scythe, arrowhead,sawtooth, had original floydroses, All the Newer Edwards i think e-al-166 and numbers like that have the ft-1000 but im not sure about that.


HOWEVER u can figure it out by the Cutaway/out on the fretboard

when alexi got himself the Pinky with the cutout more to the body (so cutout starting on the 19fret) and all his older models started on the 17th fret

all the Edwardes with the Cutout or cutaway beginning at the 19th fret has the FR-1000 floydrose

and all the Edwards alexi's with the cutout/cutaway beginning at the 17th fret has original floydroses.

they started to make Sawtooths and scythes to with the cutaway on the 19th fret so there u have it, the scythe in the vid begins at the 19th fret to.


Alexi's Original ESP Scyth and Sawtooth never been made with the cutaway at the 19th fret. so there for u got ur prove that all the Edwards models are mass produced*same body and headstock but later on modified with the inlay in the fretboard and the paint that goes with that model

hope this clears out ur problems ;-)

 

[<Arcane>]

This isn't really a prove You can also say the same thing about the pickups. Nice try, but whatever you will say, nunfrg is the only guy who will still believe that Edwards are handmade.

 

[srob7001]

let me explain it to ya

all the Edwards e-al-128 Had Original FLoyd roses
so the scythe, arrowhead,sawtooth, had original floydroses, All the Newer Edwards i think e-al-166 and numbers like that have the ft-1000 but im not sure about that.


HOWEVER u can figure it out by the Cutaway/out on the fretboard

when alexi got himself the Pinky with the cutout more to the body (so cutout starting on the 19fret) and all his older models started on the 17th fret

all the Edwardes with the Cutout or cutaway beginning at the 19th fret has the FR-1000 floydrose

and all the Edwards alexi's with the cutout/cutaway beginning at the 17th fret has original floydroses.

they started to make Sawtooths and scythes to with the cutaway on the 19th fret so there u have it, the scythe in the vid begins at the 19th fret to.


Alexi's Original ESP Scyth and Sawtooth never been made with the cutaway at the 19th fret. so there for u got ur prove that all the Edwards models are mass produced*same body and headstock but later on modified with the inlay in the fretboard and the paint that goes with that model

hope this clears out ur problems ;-)

Well thank you, but I didn't really have a problem with this. I have been saying all along that they are all very similar and are all great guitars(never played the Edwards). I could care less which floyd mine has as it has never failed me and works just like it is designed to work. So OFR or FR-1000....I don't care. I even said I would buy more FR-1000's if they were available to buy, but they are not.

What we were all getting at was that the Edwards was not hand made and that the difference between the Edwards and the LTD's are very slim, basically body shape.

 

[nunofrg]

honestly i dont really care about what you guys think so i didnt even read


if you want to believe alexi 600 is as good/better than edwards then go for it. more than half of you have the alexi600 so its normal you to defend it, even if more than you are talking about the edwards without even have played in it so. the facts are there, so as i said i dont care and believe whatever you want


i wont comment on this subject again

 

[Gucking Fod]

Looking for a j2sp

 

[T3h_Killjoy]

honestly i dont really care about what you guys think so i didnt even read


if you want to believe alexi 600 is as good/better than edwards then go for it. more than half of you have the alexi600 so its normal you to defend it, even if more than you are talking about the edwards without even have played in it so. the facts are there, so as i said i dont care and believe whatever you want


i wont comment on this subject again

Still proves that you're a cockmuncher and you got ownd.

 

[Necroraven]

What's this bullshit about necks, wood, floyds, pickups, etc.

When are you guys gonna learn, that it's about sex, drugs & rock'n'roll, not this: