Edwards e-al-128

srob7001 said:
Wow....2007 and you felt the need to bring it back to life.

And are you sure the Edwards are superior? I would call that a matter of opinion.
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im super sure. i had both on my hands and played. its absolutely different and edwards is far better because:

its made in japan in the same factory as original esp and by the same guys and not in korea/indonesia shitty factory. its not made only by machines like the ltds, but more in a custom shop way

its far more well constructed

its far more near to the original guitar alexi plays and looks so much better with the original small wing and the volume knob in the exact position alexi has. alexi only uses on stage and studio the japanese version and also admited he prefered the japanese model which that can tell something (he only uses the american version on rockhouse and some photoshoot)

has totally original german floyd (the other has a chinese 1000 series, and believe, its for sure NOT the same thing...), gotoh tuners (this are the ones alexi has on his guitar, and not the grovers) and schaller straplocks which alexi 600 doesnt have at all

the 166 edwards (pink and blacky) even have scalloped frets and everything

has a better pickup than the alexi600: the hz h4 (alexi600 has the hz h2 which has much lower output and sucks much more. the h4 is a passive version of the emg 81) or the seymour duncan blackout. some edwards even come with the esp gain boost, just like alexis very own guitar

the edwards comes always with a softcase and the 166 with a case. the alexi 600 comes with a case if you pay extra money or the guy offers or something.

any guy who plays both guitars will for sure say edwards is better, because the quality difference is obvious. not having played edwards and having the alexi600 like arcane is obvious he will stick to the "alexi600 is better" cuz if not he will feel dumb of himself of buying it instead of the edwards. thats about it

honestly even the jackson rr24 is better than the alexi 600. however, the edwards is better than the rr24 imo


btw who said edwards is cheaper than alexi 600 is absolutely wrong.

if you want a better detailed review of the edwards:


now i challenge the guys who prefer the alexi 600 to tell me why is it better than the edwards.

end of fucking story
 
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nunofrg said:
honestly even the jackson rr24 is better than the alexi 600. however, the edwards is better than the rr24 imo
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end of fucking story
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You said it like Jackson is somekind of a stagg. And RR24 is better then both of thoose. Why ? Motherfucking compound radius, fingers just fly on Jacksons, but I have nothing against ltds and such, just their quallity isn't the same as it used to be.
 
T3h_Killjoy said:
You said it like Jackson is somekind of a stagg. And RR24 is better then both of thoose. Why ? Motherfucking compound radius, fingers just fly on Jacksons, but I have nothing against ltds and such, just their quallity isn't the same as it used to be.
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jacksons arent made the same anymore either tho... ever since fender bought em out theyve gone down the shitter. they dont feel the same anymore. thats why i switched to the esp models and a couple ibanez.
 
and you guys can hate on me all you want in this discussion but i could give a rats ass. im stuck in iraq and just passing the time.
 
By the way, everyone has noticed the fucking price increase of the Edwards? It cost 1079 => 1439 € now.

So.. The LTD is cheaper than the Edwards now :(
 
T3h_Killjoy said:
You said it like Jackson is somekind of a stagg. And RR24 is better then both of thoose. Why ? Motherfucking compound radius, fingers just fly on Jacksons, but I have nothing against ltds and such, just their quallity isn't the same as it used to be.
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no.. rr24 isnt better than edwards. compound radius? edwards and alexi600 have it too.

quality isnt as used to be? lol thats exactly what i would say about jackson since it was bought by fender


what an ignorant post...
 
Price = quality? Sometimes yes, sometimes no. I think it's more like a matter of preference.
 
Necroraven said:
Price = quality? Sometimes yes, sometimes no. I think it's more like a matter of preference.
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dude are you retarded or just pretending ur so? just fucking read what i wrote behind explaining why edwards is better. its much more than a question of preference. besides, how can something 500e more expensive be worst?
 
nunofrg said:
dude are you retarded or just pretending ur so? just fucking read what i wrote behind explaining why edwards is better. its much more than a question of preference. besides, how can something 500e more expensive be worst?
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I didn't mean the LTD vs. Edwards-comparison, but guitars in general :rolleyes: An obvious example, but I don't think the 4000e Alexi-signature is better than every under 4000e guitar there is. But on the actual debate, based on your description Edwards would be better, though I still wouldn't buy either even for 500e.
 
Ok, I have a RR24M and the LTD ALX-600(original ones without scalloping)

So..

Jackson>Edwards>LTD

Is this the general idea?

Now I have never played the Edwards but I own the other 2 and I can tell you they play, feel, and are constructed about the same. I prefer the Jackson because of the compound radius fretboard....no the LTD's or Edwards or ESP's do not have this or if they do they don't say so on web site, nor do they feel the same in my hands. Only Jackson does. I can all but guarantee you that if you played them blindfolded you couldn't tell the difference. They both play great and sound great. If you set them up the same they will feel the same when you play them.

And about the ping floyd.....no they are not made in germany...they are the same spec wise(from what I have compared), just put together in China. They feel the same on a guitar. No different what so ever. I wish I could just buy ping floyds aftermarket(I want some gold ones) but you can't. They only make them for guitar companies. They hold up fine also. I abuse the shit out of mine on a daily basis, so I don't know where all the hate come from for those.

Like I originally said.....it's all a matter of opinion. Just because a guitar is made in one place over another doesn't make that guitar supperior. I have played sub $300.00 guitars that have played better than guitars over $1000.00, it's really all in the set up and if you really know how to play a guitar, the type doesn't matter.

Just my .02

It's all in people heads if you ask me. They are all so close to being the same that it just boils down to personal preference.
 
srob7001 said:
Ok, I have a RR24M and the LTD ALX-600(original ones without scalloping)

So..

Jackson>Edwards>LTD

Is this the general idea?

Now I have never played the Edwards but I own the other 2 and I can tell you they play, feel, and are constructed about the same. I prefer the Jackson because of the compound radius fretboard....no the LTD's or Edwards or ESP's do not have this or if they do they don't say so on web site, nor do they feel the same in my hands. Only Jackson does. I can all but guarantee you that if you played them blindfolded you couldn't tell the difference. They both play great and sound great. If you set them up the same they will feel the same when you play them.

And about the ping floyd.....no they are not made in germany...they are the same spec wise(from what I have compared), just put together in China. They feel the same on a guitar. No different what so ever. I wish I could just buy ping floyds aftermarket(I want some gold ones) but you can't. They only make them for guitar companies. They hold up fine also. I abuse the shit out of mine on a daily basis, so I don't know where all the hate come from for those.

Like I originally said.....it's all a matter of opinion. Just because a guitar is made in one place over another doesn't make that guitar supperior. I have played sub $300.00 guitars that have played better than guitars over $1000.00, it's really all in the set up and if you really know how to play a guitar, the type doesn't matter.

Just my .02

It's all in people heads if you ask me. They are all so close to being the same that it just boils down to personal preference.
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well i can guarantee you that the edwards has the german floyd because i have an edwards and i had a roope600 (1000 series and its NOT the same thing, in a question of MONTHS the 1000 series floyd got all fucked up and in 1 year i need to buy a new one, the floyd from the edwards is absolutely intact as i bought and it was 7 months ago). and i can also guarantee it has the radius thing as well. being made in a factory like the indonesian one or in america or japan its not the same thing you know? alexi600 is made ONLY by machines, the edwards is customized by hand besides of that. its absolutely obvious edwards is better, if you still want to believe its not well, believe in that then
 
I wasn't saying the Edwards didn't have the german floyd...I was just commenting on the ping floyds. And they last way longer than a year. My LTD with the ping was made in 08 and it still stays in tune perfect and returns to zero everytime. I have had my Jackson for almost 2 years now and it apparently has the ping floyd(even though website says OFR) and it is fine as well. Maybe I just have good luck with floyds...I have never even had issues with the Ibanez Edge III, yet people say it is one of the worst trems available. It's all in the set up.

And all necks have a radius, some are flatter than others, but only Jackson does the compund radius(the radius is more round near the headstock and it flattens out more as you get closer to the bridge, makes chords easier and shredding easier...you kind of get the best of both worlds)

I understand machine made vs. handmade, but what is hand done on the Edwards? (Can't watch video if that explains as I am at work)

I am just saying that they are all so close in comparison that the little differences really are not worth the extra money....IMO Especially for us in the USA.
 
I wish I could give headbutts through the internet to all of you who haven't any idead of what you're talking about.

1. Everybody has his own opinion about guitars and how they should sound so a pickup doesn't make a guitar better or worse. Some people like the hz-fh2, some the hz-h4, some the blackout, etc.... You can buy LTD 600 with every pickup you want.
2. The edwards isn't better just because of the look. I don't know why you guys are so much naive to think that the Edwards is better just because it looks like more than Alexis CS guitars?!?
3. The LTD 600 has original floyd in it whereas the Edwards hasn't. Not the other way.
4. Who says that gotoh tuners are better than grover? The Gotoh 510's are the only superior tuners I know but not the ones Edwards and ESP have. I know a lot of guys which will tell you that Grover tuners are better in general. Also Schaller and Sperzel are better than both imo. Btw... it doesn't matter which tuners those guitars have because of the nut.
5. Schaller straplocks are better than other strap locks? :lol: Jesus... Are they made of diamond or what? Btw. I can't find any details about ESP Alexi CS strap locks.
6. LTD 600, Edwards E-AL and ESP Alexi guitars do all exist of the same material/wood so why should the quality of the LTD 600 be worse?!?
7. Who says that all Edwards guitars are handmade? Just because they are build in Japan? Let me tell you something you ignoramus... only ESP CS models are handmade and are produced in the japanese ESP custom-factory. ESP STD and Edwards guitars are mass-production.
 
See I thought my RR and my LTD both had OFR, but then others were saying the RR has the FR-1000 and it looks and feels just like the floyd on my LTD, so I assumed they were both pings. Maybe they are both OFR and thats why I have never had any problems with them. Either way....its a great trem. So don't head butt me too hard Zinedine Zidane...lol
 
<Arcane> said:
My posting was more directed into nunfrgs way... Just look if you have a made in germany stamp on your floyd. If yes, it's an original. If not, then not.
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I know my RR floyd didn't say Made in Germany, as I took it out to change out the sustain block to a big brass sustain block(I suggest anyone with a floyd do this as it drastically increases sustain and tone). Everything else about it seems to be OFR though. Not sure on the LTD though, never taken it out of the guitar. But from the top it looks just like the one in my RR.
 
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