Engl XXL vs Mesa Oversized

[Sickan]

I'm seriously G.A.S.ing for a cab and the economy is allowing me to do so very soon.

The question is, should I buy a Engl XXL or a Mesa Oversized?

My weapon of choise is my 5150 (mkI) and I don't know which cab I like better. The oversized is loved by everyone and is used on everything, but the engl has a growl to it that I really love.

Tell me some pros/cons (if there are any) about both cabs!

I'm leaning towars the Engl atm.

 

[G1]

Lolzgreg i think has both of these cabs, considering he's using them all the time to do re-amps for bands n such he should be able to give you a pretty clear indication of what each cab is like.

 

[MarcusGHedwig]

Honestly, from the clips I've heard, I prefer the standard-sized Engl over the XXL; front-mounting the V30's already scoops 'em pretty hard, in the XXL it seems like it just gets even more extreme (too much so IMO) And Greg has the standard-sized Engl Pro, btw (and my current reference for the Engl Pro tone is As You Drown's album, which you know how much I dig Sickan )

 

[Ola Englund]

Sickan, I heard the oversized ENGL in action this last weekend and hell it's the perfect cab. Makes every other standard 4x12 sound like shit.
I bet the oversized mesa is a good choice aswell.

 

[Lasse Lammert]

the XXL is a good cab...but the Mesa blows it out of the water.
I had an Engl salesman in the studio not too long ago, he brought the XXL...even he admitted the mesa sounds wider, fatter, chunkier, better

 

[TheDude]

the XXL is a good cab...but the Mesa blows it out of the water.
I had an Engl salesman in the studio not too long ago, he brought the XXL...even he admitted the mesa sounds wider, fatter, chunkier, better

I think that the size of the room (comb filtering, early reflections), MUST have a large impact on the sound, because when we compared the EnglXXL to a Mesa oversized, the XXL was balanced, fat and open, and the Mesa was harsh and terrible. Our cab room is pretty small and damped btw.

So, the only way to find out is to test each in the environment they'll be placed in, IMO.

 

[Lasse Lammert]

I think that the size of the room (comb filtering, early reflections), MUST have a large impact on the sound, because when we compared the EnglXXL to a Mesa oversized, the XXL was balanced, fat and open, and the Mesa was harsh and terrible. Our cab room is pretty small and damped btw.

So, the only way to find out is to test each in the environment they'll be placed in, IMO.

that's weird, exactly the opposite of how it sounded over here.
but yeah, he'll definitely have to test and compare himself I think

 

[xFkx]

I believe there are inconsistancies on a cab to cab and speaker to speaker basis..

Also the Engl might have not been broken in Lasse ?

 

[crillemannen]

What about buying them both I have a engl 4x12 with vintage 30 and im for sure gonna buy a mesa when i got the money for it

But seriously they are both a great buy, if money is an issue then buy the one that is cheaper.

 

[Lasse Lammert]

I loved my Engl Pro with v30....but when I got the mesa the engl started to collect dust, so I sold it.

 

[Dylan S]

Nic (Bekanor) had one of the XXL ENGL cabs and he played a Powerball through it, so it was less than impressive.

He has a Mesa OS now and hasn't even come CLOSE to looking back.

 

[MaxStatic]

Never heard the 4x12 Engl cab but the Mesas that I've dealt with have been pure win. I use Marshall cabs but that's just preference.

 

[greyskull]

mesa.

 

[MetalSound]

i did a comparison a while ago. here it is.
nothing beats the mesa in my opinion.

 

[Sacha]

I preferred the ENGL cabs for live use, tighter and better projection, however for recording I usually gravitated towards the Mesa for some reason.

 

[crillemannen]

I loved my Engl Pro with v30....but when I got the mesa the engl started to collect dust, so I sold it.

Ok cool, to bad they are so damn expensive in europe. Although i slave amps all the time so i need two good cabs, so i better save up for some money

 

[Sickan]

Alright so I will probably buy the Mesa (a new one), it's a pretty safe bet and I think it will last for quite some while

Next question!

Could someone recommend a good boost pedal?
I've got a TS9 and a HM-2 but I'm interested in having even more tonal flexibility. I'm looking for something that could make the 5150 a bit more djenty (well maybe not djenty, but similar character to the early Meshuggah albums), is there any good alternatives to the TC Electronic Integrated Preamplifier (it's kinda impossible to get hold of?)?

 

[TheDude]

http://www.tcelectronic.com/classicboosterdistortion.asp That's the one (original of course) Scott Ian used to scare the shit out of his Marshalls. Classic thrash.

 

[Sickan]

http://www.tcelectronic.com/classicboosterdistortion.asp That's the one (original of course) Scott Ian used to scare the shit out of his Marshalls. Classic thrash.

Hur är den jämfört med TC Electronic Integrated Preamplifier?
Är ju en del pengar för en boostpedal, är den märkbart "bättre" (till en mer djentig karaktär vill säga) än en TS9?

 

[barricade]

IMO you should try Xotic BB preamp ... better than my Ibanez TS9 808mod...by miles!