"female-fronted symphonic arab metal"

I'm glad I opened this thread even though I'm not that interested in the original post because there's a nice little discussion in here.

i can't really articulate it well but i feel like as genres have become more firmly entrenched in old positions (read: done; dead), new bands have become more averse to change too and afraid to break out of the mold

which is the opposite of what you might THINK would happen to an old genre that is kind-of continously evolving, but nevertheless it is what i'm observing

like in the olde days, maybe you're 17 years old and you have a vague idea that you want to start a death metal band. you try to play and write as well as you can, working from your tape dubs of nihilist and slayer and bathory, you try to stand out from the crowd if possible because copycatting is very looked down upon in the scene -- besides, you haven't probably really heard your contemporaries anyway --

but suddenly it's four years later and somehow you ended up releasing "wildhoney" or "eternity" or "themes from william blake" or "elegy" or "omnio" or "discouraged ones".

and i ask myself: does this shit even fucking happen anymore?

i just don't see bands really truly evolving these days. it's like "yeah we're going to start a MELODIC ATMOSPHERIC BLACK METAL BAND IN THE VEIN OF XXX AND YYY" and they do that exact shit according to the manual for however many albums they feel is appropriate; if they get the inclination to instead play BRUTAL TECHNICAL DEATH METAL then they start another fucking band project instead and do the same boring routine of standing on the shoulders of giants to accomplish essentially nothing but taking a shit from a greater height.

essentially here is the very smart conclusion to the above: metal now feels like people are fans first and musicians second and want to just belong to the club by following the rules to the letter instead of using metal as just a basic aesthetic template for actual real creativity and expression

These are great points. I see all of this too. I think part of it is the natural consequences of metal having been around for a good while now. The primary paths have been charted, the fanbase has proliferated, re-trenchment has occurred and stylistic boundaries have been set. A lot of people are content to produce music within those boundaries and others might simply find it harder to break new ground without pushing too far into experimental territory that might take them away from the boundaries of metal or away from the roots of the music they enjoy and set out to create. It does seem like a lot of the times bands intentionally set out to be an atmospheric BM project in the vein of whatever though I suppose that's not always a bad thing.

I have a hard time telling if I'm just a meat and potatoes guy that isn't bothered by a lack of experimentation and creativity or if I'm just not as fatigued because I took a long break from being deeply engaged with metal. There's so much great classic metal available, as well as bands executing music in the traditional genres so well that I'm rather content. I mean I already have hundreds of bands like this to enjoy at any moment. The problem is that people like us are ALWAYS searching for new bands. So, the question is: will I get tired of listening to bands in the traditional metal genres at some point or not? I'm inclined to say no since I've returned to this music with such vigor these many years down the road, but who knows.

There is actually a lot of terrific shit coming out nowadays with bands pushing boundaries. I feel like that's what a shit ton of bands are actually overtly TRYING to do nowadays and many just fall flat on their face. Only the extreme makes an impression, right? But others hit it out of the park though. It may not be something YOU personally enjoy, but it's still strong, unique shit.

I dunno. It seems to me like you are trying to attain a glimpse of them early "highs" and emotional impact that you received when everything was new and fresh to you. There no lack of great music to sift through these days, imo. If anything, the bar is set extraordinarily high because all the great shit coming out has created a new standard. It's like when I first got into craft beer around 16 years ago. So many different beers and styles were blowing my fucking mind left and right but now, at this point in my life, I've tasted so many godamn beers that it's literally impossible for me blow a nut over a beer. Everything is merely a good beer...nothing more, nothing less. And this is the primetime of craft beer brewing in the world. And you know what? I bitch and moan about it all the time. I complain all the time how the hipsters have ruined it and the "scene" is an abomination and nothing like how it used to be, just as Spikes said, "Back in the day..." :lol:

So, yeah. Probably the only way to really re-attain them "peak experiences" is to venture out into uncharted territory and listen to some sounds that you have yet to explore and see what sticks. Perhaps you'll discover some stuff that moves you in ways that metal/rock could never possibly even begin to do. Let curiousity and an open-mind be your guide.

Yeah, it helps to try some other things. During my forays outside of metal I came to enjoy traditional country, folk, bluegrass, etc. I also like instrumental folk music from East Asia and the Middle East, as well as Orthodox liturgical music and chanting. Medieval European folk music is also excellent. I even dabbled in a little Motown/Soul/R&B stuff in college. For pure listening enjoyment, nothing pulls me in like metal.
 
Most of the stuff I have heard that falls under these umbrellas rock my socks off.

Listen to some Chinese erhu music. I love that stuff. Probably because I was so into Three Kingdoms stuff (video games, shows, etc. about this era of Chinese history). This one is my favorite:



For Middle Eastern, I like oud music:



Early Music Consort of London and Oni Wytars do great re-creations of Medieval European folk music.



I prefer Byzantine/Coptic Orthodox chant over Russian, but they are all beautiful. This is one of my favorites, though I prefer when it's sung by Arabs:



This is just some dude recording the chanters on his phone but captures what I'm talking about when it comes to the Arabic influence: