HalfpintHenkka said:
what do you mean, there's something wrong with the philosophy?
Yeah the fact that of the matter is that some religions do seem tend to worship money. This been raised as well. I mean I don't see the point that the catholic church is still one of the most riches... well... its filthy rich still i don't know what i shoul call it... institute?... i mean the whole thing of the pope being decended from... was it peter...(not really a religous person as you can gather) and all that... Anyway what i was trying to say say... and I know this is generalizing... is that
most orgnaized religions tend to be very narrow minded and conservative... meaning that they like to cling to the old ways and don't care about the new progresses... sometimes unjustly condemming them... I'm not saying that every new progress is good or bad... I'm just saying that for example the whole abortion thing with the catholic church or the treatment of women in some die-hard islamic nations is a bit out-dated or just seems very generalizing... like when someone's raped and she is pregnated aswell... its still wrong to abort the pregnacy... go figure... Or the fact that because someone is a woman she cannot do something...
I'm not really sure if i'm making any sense. I'm drunk, tired and I'm rambling... but from my point point of view I feel that religin should be somewhat individual... if that makes sense...
bodomite said:
Thats why i believe everything in the BIBLE and nothing else you would be suprised how much shit catholics indocrinate into their religion that is not christian plus if u wanna get really brutal
I still would say that the bible is too easy to misuse... it can be interpatated in so many ways no one can be really sure what somethings mean... don't really trust the bible... other religions use it as a source though but they still don't see jesus as g.o.d.s son... makes me wonder...(i'm seriously a sceptic...)
The whole holiday thing is bizarre as well... I can understand that the christians change the date of celebrating jesus's birth so that there sacred day wouldn't be completely wiped out of history during the barbarian rule period or whatever... But why wouldn't they leave some record of the real birthday of christ???(Makes me wonder...)
Ok too much talking not enough booze...(I shouldn't log on when drunk... takes up too much space)
edit: i'm with heavenscent in the opinion that extremism has or should not have nothing to do with religion... unfortunately i'd say that it may not be an excuse but that some people really (unfortunately) feel that there duty is to enforce a certain religion... which can lead to certain ugly "demonstrations" of their faith... (hope that's clear... still drunk)
what i meant was that although originally the holiday we all know as Christmas was set to the date for a pagan one celebrated by the Romans to honor Saturn, the god of the harvest, and Mithras, the god of light, it doesn't mean that it is still meant to honor them today. both holidays fall upon the same day, but that does not mean that they share the same meaning per se. the word "Christmas" is derived from an early English phrase "Cristes maesse", and it means "Mass of Christ". not "Mass of Mithras" or "Mass of Saturn".
