Has anyone here ever been in a fight?

[lurch70]

No different, except like I said, wearing band shirts has become an anti-trend and an image that teenies have adopted to "be different", so to me, it's become cliched.

from what i remember, these "band" shirts have been around since the 70's ... and yes, teenagers mostly wear them ... so what .. all teenagers want to be cool and fit in .. this what teenage life is all about.

personally I think I wore metal shirts almost daily from 1984 to 1990 ... no kidding.
If i show you guys a pic of me in those days and of me now ... you guys would freak.

actually this brings up another point, going back to another thread ... one of the reasons for metal not being so popular nowadays might be the fact of these non-metal looking fans. the shirts and the patches and the MC jacket were all part of spreading the word of metal and bands you liked. we were like walking Billboards .. hehe

PS: and yes .. metal has to be in your blood

 

[J.]

and yes, teenagers mostly wear them ... so what .. all teenagers want to be cool and fit in .. this what teenage life is all about.

I guess I missed that memo.

 

[Erik]

Me too.

(cue "HAHAHA YUO DRESS LIEK METUL HEAD BC U WANT TO FIT IN WITH URE METAL HED FREINDS AND BROTHARS OF METAL!!!!!1111111 HAHOlolz")

 

[lurch70]

i am not talking about non metal kids wearing metal shirts just to be cool .. i am talking about kids wearing metal shirts as a lifestyle

 

[J.]

most of the guys I knew in high school wore metal shirts, not because it was their lifestyle, but so people would look at them funny or ask about the shirt, giving this individual a sense of "difference" from the horde, when in fact he's just like them.

 

[Erik]

Just another reason why the USA is stupid.

 

[J.]

Indeed. I was born in the wrong time and place. This country is so engrossed in "image" it makes me sick. And the anti-image people form their own image, and so on and so forth.

 

[Erik]

I mostly meant that in Sweden (and generally Europe I'd think) people don't really raise their eyebrows much less scream bloody murder and clutch their bibles when people wear metal shirts.

We have other problems, like that wearing the Swedish flag gets you considered a racist (no joke.) I wouldn't like the ridiculous "patriotism" of the USA either but... Oh well, getting way fucking off topic.

 

[J.]

I mostly meant that in Sweden (and generally Europe I'd think) people don't really raise their eyebrows much less scream bloody murder and clutch their bibles when people wear metal shirts.

Is it that bad in the USA? If it is, I don't know about it. I generally just ignore and assume they're a moron like every other person I see on the street.

SOme even make me laugh, like some twerp wearing the Cradle shirt with "Jesus is a cunt". It might as well say, "hey, I'm desperate for attention!"

 

[NAD]

Haha, I often get the impression that in some more religious parts of the USA you might not generally feel very welcome wearing shirts with anti-christian motives.

I see that out here, and California is one of the most liberal areas in the country. One of the most uptight as well, at least Southern Kalifuckia. People further north are mellow.

 

[Black Winter Day]

You know? Having long hair and wearing metal shirts all the time doesn't make the listening experience of the music any better than when I was a short-haired preppy-dresser. Despite this, I love having long hair and not giving a shit about wearing whatever I please. That, and I'm hella-sexy. Oh yeah, and no longer metal-listener but METHULL!!!

 

[JayKeeley]

We have other problems, like that wearing the Swedish flag gets you considered a racist (no joke.)

I can believe that. For a while in the late 80's / early 90's, with the uprise of the BNP, the Union Jack became a symbol of the National Front. People would begin to detest it for that reason. Also, the socialists wanted the monarchy out, and that flag is synonymous with the royals.

And then pop culture took over. No joke, but with Brit Rock becoming so popular, the indie crowd took the flag back, and bands like Oasis started using it on their Gibsons. And since Brit Rock was so retro, old images of Pete Townsend and The Who started emerging again of them in their Union Jack 3-piece suits. Next thing you know, Austin Powers is a worldwide hit, and people are getting the Union Jack painted on their Mini Coopers.

 

[J.]

Union Jack is a cool looking flag.

 

[JayKeeley]

One day the neo-Nazis were marching down the street waving that flag, and the next thing you know, Austin Powers is dancing down the street in that best intro ever...

 

[J.]

It's the same with the Confederate Flag. It's become synonomous with representing slavery and only slavery.

I'm still waiting for pop culture to bring it back. Unfortunately with idiots like Kid Rock sporting the flag, it of course becomes synonomous with racist rednecks (from Detroit?).

America is probably too PC to ever accept it again as a symbol of a people who fought for what they believed, because it supposedly represnts "RACICICISTS slavery OMGs" to the mass uneducated of the US.

 

[JayKeeley]

1992. I really don't know if that's considered late or not. I'm sure it's before a bunch of people, but not early enough for the 80's folks.

Metal shouldn't have a date stamp on it (nor should any good music). Most people into metal like the music regardless of when it came out. Just look at Erik, Black Winter Day, Ayeka...these guys going through old records, tapes, etc. I take my hat off to them...

...the best part is, the further back you go, the more interesting it becomes. It's like searching out the roots of it all. A bit like Blind Dog Willie and the Karate Kid searching out those lost Robert Johnson songs...until Steve Vai tries to stop them without knowing how to play appegios!!

 

[J.]

Metal shouldn't have a date stamp on it (nor should any good music). Most people into metal like the music regardless of when it came out. Just look at Erik, Black Winter Day, Ayeka...these guys going through old records, tapes, etc. I take my hat off to them...

I know. I was just responding to PJ's question about when I first really got into metal music.

I totally agree that the date a person actual discovers metal and begins listening to it doesn't mean a hill of beans (personally I think 15 was a good age for me). That's just a number and has zero bearing on the knowledge that individual possesses.

 

[Papa Josh]

I know. I was just responding to PJ's question about when I first really got into metal music.

I totally agree that the date a person actual discovers metal and begins listening to it doesn't mean a hill of beans (personally I think 15 was a good age for me). That's just a number and has zero bearing on the knowledge that individual possesses.

Bah, mularky...

It's quite obvious that one who has been listening to metal since he was 6 and is now 30 is going to have a bit more knowledge of metal than someone who hasn't... just plain logic, as Spock would say.

 

[SonOfNun]

America is probably too PC to ever accept it again as a symbol of a people who fought for what they believed, because it supposedly represnts "RACICICISTS slavery OMGs" to the mass uneducated of the US.

Fuckin A. I won't go off on a rant here, but few things piss me off as much as morons who misunderstand what the flag represents, but pretend to know and put it down. I've defended what the Confederate flag represents a million times and had to discuss the Civil War with morons who think it was fought over slavery and portray southerners as the "bad guys" in the conflict an equal amount of times. You would think they teach you something in school, but maybe that is what they teach anymore. Anyway, its something I can talk about forever, so I'll just stop.

 

[J.]

Bah, mularky...

It's quite obvious that one who has been listening to metal since he was 6 and is now 30 is going to have a bit more knowledge of metal than someone who hasn't... just plain logic, as Spock would say.

Perhaps, but not if the younger person has gone back and discovered all the older bands. I'm not saying I have. Also lots of times older fans shrug off newer material (not saying you do this).

It's a matter of simply keeping up with new material while still going backwards visiting older stuff. I mean, there's no doubt in my mind you know more about 80's bands, but I'm sure I know more about other genres and bands that perhaps you don't care to know about or even like. Just plain logic.