I think I found whats wrong with watershed
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Most chords are unrecognizable when you play them with a distorted guitar. And I don't hear a lot of augmented chords in WS. And yeah, of course augmented chords are everything but creepy by themselves but when put in some sort of chord progression, every chord can sound like something it doesn't by itself.
Plus, I don't get how someone can label WS as a "happy" album. I would say, there is not one single song there that sounds happy, I think every song sounds dark and pessimistic. Mikael himself said that for some reason even the major chords sounded dark in this album and I definitely agree.
I do agree that GR has that "happy" feeling in it with the prominent and happy keyboarding and all, but WS definitely doesn't have that.
Plus, I don't get how someone can label WS as a "happy" album. I would say, there is not one single song there that sounds happy, I think every song sounds dark and pessimistic. Mikael himself said that for some reason even the major chords sounded dark in this album and I definitely agree.
I do agree that GR has that "happy" feeling in it with the prominent and happy keyboarding and all, but WS definitely doesn't have that.
Anyone noticed that Per hardly sings on WS...a waste of talent imho...if they have a voice like his they should use it.
Don Corleone
Emre
my thoughts exactly...a very different and interesting album that has made me see opeth in a new light. but the album doesnt give me goosebumps like BWP or SL did. but thats fine with me. i was 18 back then, now im 25
I think watershed is a most fantastic piece of work. What a great F------ album!!! The growth of the songwriting is continuing from disc to disc. No one is making music this great right now. The portrayal of feelings is spot on.
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I think that Watershed, when compared with Ghost Reveries, is a somewhat cheerful album. Ghost Reveries has very dark lyrical themes and the open tunings on some of the songs allowed for more unconventional sounding chords and a generally more evil feel whereas Watershed (Heir Apparent excluded) sounds (slightly) more upbeat. Ghost Reveries doesn't give me goosebumps like Blackwater Park, but it's still quite atmospheric and evil sounding.
BefriendedUnit
They wear white for me
I still think GR is the happiest sounding of any of Opeth's records. The end of GoP, "I hear the baying of the HOUNDS!", "I sacrificed more than i had and left my woes beneath the mire", Atonement.
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I try not to think about Atonement too much, but I'll pay the other three. I still think that overall Ghost Reveries is pretty dark, but that could just be my skewed opinion.
grey knight
Etheraven
it just sounds very odd, not bad, just odd
my least favourite GR track i think is gop, although there are parts i like i feel that some of the riffs are just 'rambling' you know? also, some of the more rhythm based riffs seem to go on a bit long. i did like the octave/fifth shuffling riff though, thought that sounded like typical opeth ownage
my least favourite GR track i think is gop, although there are parts i like i feel that some of the riffs are just 'rambling' you know? also, some of the more rhythm based riffs seem to go on a bit long. i did like the octave/fifth shuffling riff though, thought that sounded like typical opeth ownage
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I love Ghost of Perdition, hence the user name. I guess I don't like Atonement much cause it sounds like a failed musical experiment. And while it's nice and still fairly good to listen to, it pales in comaprison to the rest of Ghost Reveries and Opeth in general.
I think Ghost Reveries is a decent album, but I don't think it compares to the mystery, darkness, and maturity that is Watershed. When I hear the quiet desolation of the soft parts of The Lotus Eater or Porcelain Heart (the latter of which I admittedly don't care for as much as the other songs) I hear a sadness not present on Ghost Reveries, and when I listen to Heir Apparent or the endings of The Lotus Eater or Hessian Peel I hear a FILTHINESS not present on Ghost Reveries. The 'happy' parts do sound more blatantly happy than anything on Ghost Reveries, but the way that relative happiness is dashed by what follows...
Blackwater Demon
Using Cold Words
Im still letting GR sink in. I havent owned it that long but it is becoming more of a favorite to me than WS. But of course my favorite Opeth album, at least for now is MAYH.
Watershed Is Brilliant, Coil is beautiful, Heir Apparant is Fucking Heavy just like the Lotus Eater, Burden is awesome like porcelain heart and the amazing Hessian Peel and My fave track Hex omega.
Yes the are only three tracks with death metal vocals on, but, its still opeth, i think of it as another damnation album only heavier.
OPETH RULE!!!
Yes the are only three tracks with death metal vocals on, but, its still opeth, i think of it as another damnation album only heavier.
OPETH RULE!!!
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Actually, Watershed is Opeth's most "ballsy" recording to date. The level of guts/balls it took to take the chances they did with it and not just take the easy road by rehashing BWP or MAYH simply to appease "teh br00talz" fanboys is sorely underestimated around here.
Stepping outside of the box, not being afraid to grow and progress, knowing all the while that a large number of their fans refuse to do either, takes a set as big as all outdoors in my book. I actually feel kinda sorry for people who don't/can't/won't get the huge jump in musical sophistication and maturity the band took on Watershed, particularly when it would've been sooooo much safer and easier just to regurgitate a previously successful formula.
Still, some people are just more comfortable in their narrow little sphere, I suppose, and everyone's entitled to their opinion, no matter how myopic, so... by all means, do carry on!
Stepping outside of the box, not being afraid to grow and progress, knowing all the while that a large number of their fans refuse to do either, takes a set as big as all outdoors in my book. I actually feel kinda sorry for people who don't/can't/won't get the huge jump in musical sophistication and maturity the band took on Watershed, particularly when it would've been sooooo much safer and easier just to regurgitate a previously successful formula.
Still, some people are just more comfortable in their narrow little sphere, I suppose, and everyone's entitled to their opinion, no matter how myopic, so... by all means, do carry on!
I never saw WS as a "happy" album at all.
I think GR is much "happier" compared to most of the songs on WS, and the happy parts in some of the tracks on WS are just short and when you hear the albums you can definitely see that GR is happier IMO.
BUT I still see WS as jumpy and GR as more of a massive masterpiece and also a bit heavier, which I also appreciate more, but both GR and WS are in my 4 Opeth top albums, I guess...
All I'm trying ta say is that I think GR is happier than WS even though it is heavier and more of a solid record, and WS is a bit jumpy IMO - it has very heavy parts and very happy parts and some lighter parts as well.
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I think GR is much "happier" compared to most of the songs on WS, and the happy parts in some of the tracks on WS are just short and when you hear the albums you can definitely see that GR is happier IMO.
BUT I still see WS as jumpy and GR as more of a massive masterpiece and also a bit heavier, which I also appreciate more, but both GR and WS are in my 4 Opeth top albums, I guess...
All I'm trying ta say is that I think GR is happier than WS even though it is heavier and more of a solid record, and WS is a bit jumpy IMO - it has very heavy parts and very happy parts and some lighter parts as well.
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Mr Samsara
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Blackwater Demon
Using Cold Words
yay Mr. S is back. And to contribute to this thread, I couldnt agree more, WS does seem to be the ballsiest recording Opeth has done that I have heard anyway. But I still have yet to hear Morningrise, Still Life, and Deliverance.
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