If Mort Divine ruled the world

[Dak]

Basically it started out as "y r games so patriarchy??!!" and "mean boys wont let us in their club" and then the boys started whining back about how bitches were bitching.

Games are big business, but most big business games suck, the fanboys/grrls are LCD consumers, and I can't bring myself to care about their FWP.

 

[CiG]

It didn't start out that way at all, not even close.

 

[Dak]

Are you refering to all the personal relationship drama aired out in social media that was the excuse to get the ball rolling on the feministing? Again, FWPs for LCDs.

 

[CiG]

I'm referring to journalists being paid off by game developers to give their games massively positive ratings as well as yes, Zoe Quinn and her controversy which kicked off the gamergate movement.

 

[Dak]

Professional media is pretty much all sponsored content, and no amount of complaining about journalistic integrity is going to change the economic necessity of the sponsored content model.

 

[rms]

Sarkeesian's argument is that since games portray women as objects young men then see women as objects. Which then would suggest that playing violent games leads kids to commit violence

 

[Dak]

Sarkeesian's argument is that since games portray women as objects young men then see women as objects. Which then would suggest that playing violent games leads kids to commit violence

And yet we already know there's no evidence for the latter.

 

[rms]

Yeah, that's why I thought gamergate was about an idea that was disproven & she apparently is doing all this for $$$

 

[The Ozzman]

What about treating objects like women?

 

[rms]

Not sure what you're asking

 

[The Ozzman]

Not sure what you're asking

It was a reference to The Big Lebowski

 

[CiG]

Whether or not the goal of gamergate is economically sound is quite irrelevant to how you portrayed it at first.

 

[rms]

You say journalistic ethics, I say faulty logic about objectification of women + a profiteering woman. I don't see how it's clear what gamergate is on either side.

 

[CiG]

I was talking to NoumeGnon.

I only say ethics in gaming journalism is the catalyst for gamergate, not necessarily that it's still only about that or that journalistic ethics is even it's most important goal anymore.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

tbh ever since the original Deus Ex I've been murdering video game women and propping them on staircases to peep up their skirts.

 

[viewerfromnihil]

 

[Onder]

tbh ever since the original Deus Ex I've been murdering video game women and propping them on staircases to peep up their skirts.

Do you ever feel like you might do this in real life too?

 

[Serjeant Grumbles]

What about treating objects like women?

Anita Sarkeesian draws a lot of water in this town. Gamergate doesn't draw shit.

 

[CiG]

People often prefer to support authoritarianism, censorship and tribal politics.

No surprise there.

 

[Dak]

I only say ethics in gaming journalism is the catalyst for gamergate, not necessarily that it's still only about that or that journalistic ethics is even it's most important goal anymore.

That's fair. The dustup over the personal relationship stuff I saw as just an excuse to launch the same old feminist assault on something new. -gate occurred because there was a significant backlash instead of mewling capitulation. I would say this should warrant praise, but the sort of guys who take video games that seriously are too socially unaware to "realize what they were doing".