If Mort Divine ruled the world

[rms]

Leftists are so mad none of these Nazis shot anyone.

 

[Dak]

Absolutely.

 

[Einherjar86]

Is there any point to protesting?

The short answer: no.

Would casual activists be better off deploying their best skills toward change (teachers teaching, coders coding, celebrities celebritizing) and leaving direct action in the hands of organizational pros? That seems sad, and a good recipe for lax, unchecked, uncoördinated effort. Should they work indirectly—writing letters, calling senators, and politely nagging congresspeople on Twitter? That involves no cool attire or clever signs, and no friends who’ll cheer at every turn. But there’s reason to believe that it works, because even bad legislators pander to their electorates. In a new book, “The Once and Future Liberal” (Harper), Mark Lilla urges a turn back toward governmental process. “The role of social movements in American history, while important, has been seriously inflated by left-leaning activists and historians,” he writes. “The age of movement politics is over, at least for now. We need no more marchers. We need more mayors.” Folk politics, tracing a fifty-year anti-establishmentarian trend, flatters a certain idea of heroism: the system, we think, must be fought by authentic people. Yet that outlook is so widely held now that it occupies the highest offices of government. Maybe, in the end, the system is the powerless person’s best bet.

 

[CiG]

Something in me refuses to accept that protests are pointless and useless or outdated.
I guess I'm more lefty than I demonstrate.

 

[Einherjar86]

I wouldn't go so far as to say it's useless, either.

The question, then, is what protest is for. Srnicek and Williams, even after all their criticism, aren’t ready to let it go—they describe it as “necessary but insufficient.” Yet they strain to say just how it fits with the idea of class struggle in a postindustrial, smartphone-linked world. “If there is no workplace to disrupt, what can be done?” they wonder. Possibly their telescope is pointing the wrong way round. Much of their book attempts to match the challenges of current life—a shrinking manufacturing sphere, a global labor surplus, a mire of race-inflected socioeconomic traps—with Marx’s quite specific precepts about the nineteenth-century European economy. They define the proletariat as “that group of people who must sell their labor powers to live.” It must be noted that this group—now comprising Olive Garden waiters, coders based in Bangalore, janitors, YouTube stars, twenty-two-year-olds at Goldman Sachs—is really very broad. A truly modern left, one cannot help but think, would be at liberty to shed a manufacturing-era, deterministic framework like Marxism, allegorized and hyperextended far beyond its time. Still, to date no better paradigm for labor economics and uprising has emerged.

 

[rms]

change comes from good people inserting themselves into public institutions that require them. instead, those same 'good' people ditch public service, chase profits and personal interest while their country fails/staggers. they then have the audacity to pat themselves on the back for showing up on their time, their location and their preference and act like they are bringing about change.

 

[rms]

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/27/...wind-screening.html?smid=tw-nytimes&smtyp=cur

^^ protest them 6 nazi's though

 

[Baroque]

^ yeah they're going too far with that

 

[Einherjar86]

Really disappointed by the fallout from all this.

 

[Dak]

History may not repeat itself, but it rhymes.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inquisition

Moldbuggian "Cathedral" critiques seem more prescient than ever.

 

[Einherjar86]

History may not repeat itself, but it rhymes.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inquisition

Moldbuggian "Cathedral" critiques seem more prescient than ever.

Nice Twain reference (it's better than Hegel's quote).

The significant difference here is that the state isn't torturing and executing people for heresy. People are choosing to censor themselves. That doesn't mean I think they should, but that's a qualification to make.

Also, Moldbug isn't a novel prophet. What he's saying has been said before, just in different words, and directed at different crowds.

 

[Dak]

Nice Twain reference (it's better than Hegel's quote).

The significant difference here is that the state isn't torturing and executing people for heresy. People are choosing to censor themselves. That doesn't mean I think they should, but that's a qualification to make.

Also, Moldbug isn't a novel prophet. What he's saying has been said before, just in different words, and directed at different crowds.

I'll agree with all of that. But I do think Moldbug (Yarvin) said things "before his time", that are still heresy, and to a crowd that mostly doesn't know he exists, and probably never will. There's significant irony surrounding Yarvin in that he is Jewish and calls himself a Jacobite.

 

[CiG]

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/27/...wind-screening.html?smid=tw-nytimes&smtyp=cur

^^ protest them 6 nazi's though

Absolutely pathetic.

 

[CiG]

http://www.decibelmagazine.com/2017...censor-nsbm-distribute/#.WaQiB3_1b1o.facebook

Opposing Nazism is considered brave now and supporting freedom of speech is controversial now.

Can't fucking wait until the bombs drop. Don't fucking knock on my bunker door motherfuckers.

 

[CiG]

Okay, this is fucking hilarious. Clearly old video by now but majority of the stuff they claim is such horseshit.

Muslim women aren't oppressed? Let me guess, they've also made a video about how all women are oppressed.

They also say ISIS not only do not represent Islam, but they're un-Islamic and anti-Islamic because - get this - they kill other Muslims and bomb mosques.



I didn't know that when it comes to Islam, killing people you deem heretics makes you no longer a Muslim. I guess the prophet Muhammad wasn't a Muslim then? Jesus Christ the utter stupidity in a desperate attempt to be an apologist for a religion is just astounding and pathetic.

Muslims who hold closest to the Qur'an's and Hadith's teachings are by definition, more Islamic than Muslims who do not.
Same with Christians vs. moderates and every single other doctrine, ideology or religion in existence.

And their claim that since 2006, all other forms of terrorism in Europe dwarf Islamic terrorism is absolute bollocks. And why is the cut-off point 2006? Sneaky, slimy fuckers.

 

[rms]

https://twitter.com/edskrein/status/902244967296491520

will we see the reverse of this? I doubt it, but not sure I agree with his specific point about the character in Deadpool, and it shouldn't be on him to 'fix' diversity issues, rather casting directors

 

[Oblivious Maximus]

 

[CiG]

http://www.dailywire.com/news/20299...102516-podcast&utm_campaign=beingconservative

California legislators are set to vote this week on a bill that could criminalize using the wrong pronoun to refer to a transgender individual.

The bill, which passed the California state senate in May, has moved into the California state assembly as part of a slew of gender-based "anti-discrimination" laws designed to protect California residents who don't believe they fall into the gender binary.

I bet all the supposedly anarchistic leftists will support this too and they won't even realise the irony of them being statist pieces of shit.

https://twitter.com/edskrein/status/902244967296491520

will we see the reverse of this? I doubt it, but not sure I agree with his specific point about the character in Deadpool, and it shouldn't be on him to 'fix' diversity issues, rather casting directors

Oh great, I can't wait for a future where the arts are dictated by the feelings of a mob.

 

[Oblivious Maximus]

Yes, antifa is the moral equivalent of neo-Nazis

All-female Lord of The Flies remake faces backlash as it 'misses the point' and 'women wouldn't act like that'

 

[CiG]

All-female Lord of The Flies remake faces backlash as it 'misses the point' and 'women wouldn't act like that'

I think it's pretty telling that all these Tweets demonstrate a strange view of women by I assume feminists. They actually think women are peaceful and don't express cruelty in group situations etc.

The future of film is looking great though.

Gender/race flips, all-women remakes, reboots/remakes of 50 year old franchises, western anime live actions and mob-dictated films aimed at faux-diversity.

Fuck yeah!