If Mort Divine ruled the world

I know Pat does, but he must pretend that he has no knowledge of the human body and no knowledge of economic theory and history.

Capitalism has provided so much energy excess that we have an obesity problem, which contributes to a variety of health problems which place a significant burden on the healthcare system. Somehow all of it is remedied by "communism". Well it is. If everyone dies, no problem!
 
Modern, western, medicine is, effectively, a waste of resources. Fortunately, Marxist medicine says it is too. We just need to stop saving all the sick minorities in the name of progress. OMG PARADOX.
 
I know Pat does, but he must pretend that he has no knowledge of the human body and no knowledge of economic theory and history.

Are you suggesting that I think Marxism is a solution? Did I say that?

My ideology hasn't killed nearly as many people as Marxism afaik.

Thankfully your ideology (whatever it is) is restricted to a metal forum on the internet. Where it deserves to remain.
 
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Are you suggesting that I think Marxism is a solution? Did I say that?

I'm not saying you would explicitly say or think so, but you might vote so or "Like" so. I find Republican rhetoric divorced from desirable action, and my father's Hannity love nauseating, but lesser of the two evils renders the republican candidate a better option. Likewise, you (or if not you, people you like) likely would find Ocasio et al a "lesser of two evils". However, I don't vote so I can keep my conscience clean.

Infrastructure develops because of discourse concerning the development of infrastructure. Did I need to spell that out?

You do, because "discourse" regarding infrastructure requires zero progressive interests (to use a non-loaded term), education, or understanding. Academics are mostly sheltered, ignorant fucks. That "hicks" are also mostly ignorant isn't a defense of academics. To put it in the crosshairs: I've never met a Progressive who is chomping to debate me about infrastructure.
 
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Rose McGowan Indicted for Cocaine Possession.

I've always felt that drugs-based character assassinations are bullshit, but given her deranged rants and non-stop TERFism this probably makes a lot of sense.

Also lmao:

"These charges would have never been brought if it weren’t for her activism as a voice for women everywhere. I assure you, this selective prosecution will be met with a strong defense."
 
I'm not saying you would explicitly say or think so, but you might vote so or "Like" so. I find Republican rhetoric divorced from desirable action, and my father's Hannity love nauseating, but lesser of the two evils renders the republican candidate a better option. Likewise, you (or if not you, people you like) likely would find Ocasio et al a "lesser of two evils". However, I don't vote so I can keep my conscience clean.

Not voting is a choice like any other. It's certainly not proof of absolution.

You do, because "discourse" regarding infrastructure requires zero progressive interests (to use a non-loaded term), education, or understanding.

Wooooooow, for serious? That's dumb, bro.
 
I'm sorry, they're not; but intellectual discourse shapes social discourse. Social decisions wouldn't happen without academics discussing social matters.

Infrastructure develops because of discourse concerning the development of infrastructure. Did I need to spell that out?

Wooooooow, for serious? That's dumb, bro.

Roads, bridges, canals, etc pre-exist anything like academia. The military needs roads so we get roads. Has been like that at least as far back as the Roman empire and continued through to the interstate system. Certainly engineers and construction managers get college degrees, but they don't engage in anything like what you would call "intellectual discourse" to do so or after. The "intellectuals" on campus certainly don't consider the guys who go to class with hardhats and clipboards intellectuals, and they also don't spend their time discussing infrastructure beyond "man the roads are really becoming full of potholes!"

Progressivism in the current year/decade/etc. is a big tent which includes environmentalists which want to see infrastructure reduced if not outright destroyed, and focuses almost entirely on social spending (eg healthcare, housing subsidies, etc). Social spending proposals, if they ever address anything approaching infrastructure, tend to be limited to "public transportation" or something like housing projects.

I've done a lot of traveling in the US, and even after accounting for wealth disparities in a region, guessing politics based on the state of the roads etc is certainly better than chance. Texas, long a conservative state, has some of the best infrastructure in the world despite its vast size. There are some exceptions though, like Houston. Guess how Houston tends to vote? Louisiana is a poor state so the roads aren't all the great period, but Shreveport had some of the worst roads I've ever had the displeasure of driving on back in like '09-'12. Guess how Shreveport tends to vote. You could tell where the city/county road responsibility started and stopped because of the immediate change in the condition or decondition of the pavement.

Yes, hicks do love hearing anti-intellectual straw man garbage from anti-intellectual intellectuals.

Academics =/= intellectuals, but I'm sure at some point trying to distinguish intellectuals would run afoul of no-true-scotsmanning.
 
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Roads, bridges, canals, etc pre-exist anything like academia. The military needs roads so we get roads. Has been like that at least as far back as the Roman empire and continued through to the interstate system. Certainly engineers and construction managers get college degrees, but they don't engage in anything like what you would call "intellectual discourse" to do so or after. The "intellectuals" on campus certainly don't consider the guys who go to class with hardhats and clipboards intellectuals, and they also don't spend their time discussing infrastructure beyond "man the roads are really becoming full of potholes!"

I already responded to HBB's similar comment. To put it simply, you're wrong. Discourse isn't just one-on-one conversations; it's how information circulates among professionals. Public policy experts, private consultants for independent contractors, and engineering professors read academic journals, and that knowledge gets disseminated throughout the students they teach.

Engineers may not be chatting with urban planners over coffee, but that doesn't mean the knowledge crafted through academic discourse never comes in contact with those working on the ground level.