If Mort Divine ruled the world

[CiG]

The alt right is the youth wing of modern nationalism.

 

[rms]

The people in control aren't scared at all though, they openly admit that it's a fringe movement and something useful to paint opponents with.

I feel like this the opposite of what i've been hearing since the election

 

[EternalMetal]

The best article I've seen on the definition of the alt-right is one co-authored by Milo on Breitbart: http://www.breitbart.com/tech/2016/03/29/an-establishment-conservatives-guide-to-the-alt-right/

There actually is a bit of truth in calling some of these people nationalists. But for the most part it looks like they just exist to antagonize and question leftist PC culture.

Also mentioned is the 1488rs, which is basically the racist hater part of the alt-right that I am sure leftists like to group the whole movement into. I feel like I've been seeing more of these bastards vocalizing on the internet lately, and they seem to ironically resemble the irrational campus leftists that they enjoy hating on so much. I think the worry about the alt-right lies in the idea of this group growing and causing social unrest. Though like HBB mentioned, the left doesn't mind race-pitting, so the growth of this segment of the alt-right will only provide more traction for the left in the future. From a social justice perspective, it is somewhat worrying that white supremacist ideology is being given a modern platform. I prefer to think that the majority of the alt-right does not think this extremely, and therefore are champions of balancing out the rights of average Americans (instead of the minority-pandering politics that have been so pervasive as of late). Anti-Muslim sentiment is probably the biggest concern at the moment.

 

[CiG]

The prince of the alt right objectively dissecting the alt right? I'm tempted to pass.

 

[EternalMetal]

It's probably the only piece of journalism on the movement that ive ever seen actually break it down into a coherent ideology while considering its history without proclaiming their bafflement. Personally I dont think it is the alt-right pandering piece you expect it to be.

 

[Oblivious Maximus]

Milo Yiannopoulos to Tomi Lahren: the faces of America's young alt-Right pack

Even people who don't like Milo, Tomi and Blaire are calling out the writer on her Twitter page about how wrong this is.

 

[The Ozzman]

 

[rms]

kangs?

 

[CiG]

KINGS DAWG.

 

[The Ozzman]

N SHIET

 

[CiG]

 

[Dak]

http://www.cnn.com/2016/12/16/us/minnesota-gophers-football-boycott/index.html

More of this bullshit. And of course no consequences for her.

 

[rms]

eh, that's a more complicated issue than that.

The MIN players are being punished in the same way Brady was. Kind of silly for them to act like they cannot be punished by a private organization (unless state collegiate academics are considered public organizations?)

Not sure how much sports talk you listen too but i'm a huge Bomani Jones fan. He does about 30 minutes on the topic last night and I think he does a pretty good job displaying the issue here;

http://www.espn.com/espnradio/play?id=18294578

 

[arg]

rekt

 

[Dak]

eh, that's a more complicated issue than that.

The MIN players are being punished in the same way Brady was. Kind of silly for them to act like they cannot be punished by a private organization (unless state collegiate academics are considered public organizations?)

It's publicly funded.

I'm not saying it isn't complicated. But if the story Bomani gives is true, the woman went along with it "thinking that would make it end sooner". That's sad, and the whole scenario is an example of how shitty people are and have been, but it doesn't allow for rape/sex assault accusations.

 

[Jimmy... Dead.]

really enjoying Jordan Peterson and his stand against all this bullshit

 

[EternalMetal]

I just skimmed the police report on that Minnesota football team thing and im not exactly sure if everything was kosher. What ended up happening was that the girl got drunk after the game, partied for a while, got hit on by 2 guys (which I presume to be on the football team), and went back to their room to have sex. More guys started coming into the room after a little while and she even has recollection of one of the dudes forcing himself on her in an abusive manner. At one point she supposedly wrapped a blanket around herself and told the guys to stop, but was not successful in her plea. If I am to at all believe in the girl's testimony, id say that sexual assault was involved here. The only complicated thing about the situation is which guys were justified in banging her and which ones werent. The problem with the case is that consensual sex was involved, there is video evidence (of what I presume to be more towards the beginning of the gangbang) of her enjoying herself, and there is no evidence other than the girl's testimony of any unwanted actions.

It looks like some of the players suspended werent directly involved in the sexual activities, which is the only valid point of contention that I see. Otherwise a rather shameful boycott.

 

[rms]

It's publicly funded.

honestly have no idea how much of a share of public funds go towards athletic departments in state schools. but most if not all univerisites have their only police or protocols for sexual assault allegations. which makes it more confusing why anyone would ever talk to a uni cop instead of a city/county/town cop but whatever

That's sad, and the whole scenario is an example of how shitty people are and have been, but it doesn't allow for rape/sex assault accusations.

i think that is what he gets at too, the 'floor plan' thing fucking had me rolling. one day women might realize its so hard to demonstrate what actually happened and now get piss drunk at any occasion (men will be rapists implied here)

really enjoying Jordan Peterson and his stand against all this bullshit

he did a podcast with Rogan a week or so ago, has some good things to say but comes off like an idiot on his religious beliefs and his adherence to not just call a trans person whatever. being forced to do it =/= just not being a dick/18 yr old college troll

 

[EternalMetal]

he did a podcast with Rogan a week or so ago, has some good things to say but comes off like an idiot on his religious beliefs and his adherence to not just call a trans person whatever. being forced to do it =/= just not being a dick/18 yr old college troll

He is being stubborn because of the points that he is trying to prove. He doesnt like the nonsense science of the far left, nor does he like how close they are to getting legislation passed that could set a precedent to the violation of free speech. His point about the pronouns is that gender as a binary is a biological concept that is inalienable. It isnt even about the sensitivities; people see others as being either male of female. Some trans people could be offended if you call them by a pronoun that they have not arbitrarily assigned to themselves. There is talk about 20+ gender pronouns, many of which I am sure most people have never heard of and therefore are incapable of appealing to the sensitivities of someone of non-binary persuasion. How do you know if a trans person wants to be called he, she, zhe, or something else? Since the assignment is arbitrary, this is a concept that is incapable of being utilized in society (you shouldnt have to ask every person you meet what gender pronoun you should use with them). Peterson refuses to use alternative pronouns because he refuses to even acknowledge pronouns outside of the binary. It may appear to be a stubborn and dick kind of move, but ultimately he is just an academic who does not want to nor should he indulge concepts that he does not fundamentally agree with.

 

[Mort Divine]

He is hiding behind his wall of academia to defend his bigotry.