what about the "fully functional" and "pre-op" transsexuals?
the ones who have gone through throat surgery to have a Minnie Mouse voice/reduced Adam's apple and the "facial feminizing" surgery to have a face that looks like a Barbie doll and implants/fat-transfer to have huge boobs and a huge ass
i'm not calling that person he/him if they look like a girl till they lift up their skirt
seriously
if i'm looking at Sarina Valentina or Eva Cassini face-2-face, i'm not referring to that person as "him" or "he"
also
the ones planning on having [expensive-as-hell] gender-reassignment-surgery should be called and treated like their new gender long before they actually go through the expensive surgery
Calling someone he/she is casual and intuitive, so ill call them whatever instinct or the social situation implies. I probably wouldnt be socially rude and call a tranny a he just because he has a dick and I can tell, but ill still mentally think of the person as a dude who dresses and/or acts like a girl.
As for the post-op decked out ones that you wouldnt be able to tell unless you lift their skirt, if it doesnt come up in conversation and they pass as female, id mentally think of them as a female. Once I know, then I would think of them as a male.
The way I look at the situation now has kind of changed a little bit. I acknowledge that gender is a social construct, and therefore there probably does exist a continuum where people lie on a spectrum of man (masculinity) and woman (femininity). However, whether someone is "male" or "female" is dependent upon biology. You cant become a female through surgery (ok, if they get to the point where they can somehow naturally bear children - which is impossible with modern science - then they would, but otherwise no). Your sex cannot change, and the term "sex-change" is a misnomer for the more aptly named "gender reassignment". For the sake of not driving myself mad, I view the terms "male" and "female" as biological and not gender based. The terms she/girl/woman/lady, and he/boy/man/dude, etc. can be used as a gender descriptor and as a biological distinction, and doing so depends on context. Though I refuse to accept additional jargon additions to the he/she dichotomy until society by and large starts using other descriptors naturally (at this point I see this to be unlikely in the foreseeable future despite what whackos who took a class WANT to believe). If you want to use your terms within your friend circles, fine, but don't impose your sensitivities upon people who by and large see gender as a black and white social norm still tied to biological sex.
So as the statement is written, I agree with Baroque. The example trans you use (Sarina Valentina) is a male, but I guess I shouldnt disagree with being able to call her a girl, even if im not really comfortable with the idea.
