When did he say they were never friends. O find that hard to believe. All the interviews I read, he says they were friends.
It wasn't the interview I remembered (it was the one he seemed kinda devastated though), and I don't want to go through all of them, but he said something along the lines that they weren't friends, so if it wasn't for the music, they would've walked past by eachother on the street. But to be clear, he did not mean that they did not like one another. Slayer was the same way towards Jeff Hanneman. I'm not saying Jesper was the same, but people said that Hanneman was quite reserved even when with the band (touring, recording), and when they had time to go home or to holiday etc, he always just disappeared, they barely kept in touch.
I don't know how you can be so passionate about music you don't like eochaid. What a waste of time writing all that to Jesper lol. I know everyone can express there opinion etc etc, but who the fucks spends time writing about things they don't like, continuously? I like The End, The Truth is okay. I don't feel the need to express that to a former member of a band, in any way. If I don't like things, I just move on, why waste time on it. There's so many bands I just like a couple albums, a certain album or even just a few songs. ''Oh you went down the wrong path after your first 2 albums, you're wasting your name'' you will never see me writing shit like that, especially to the band itself.
There's so much good music being released all the time, I rather just focus on that. For example, new Devin Townsend record in my eyes is 9.5/10 all around, if anything, I'd rather express my hapiness with their new record to them, whether it be on social media or elsewhere rather than trashing someone's new album saying I hate it. There's constructive criticism and there's just negativity. Both are opinions anyone can express but only one makes you sound/look like a douche.
''Your new shit fucking blows, it's really boring and sounds like radio pop with shitty lyrics, sellouts.''
''Your new album(s) doesn't really click with me, but I will still listen to your earlier albums which I like''
See the difference? I mean this in general with any groups or bands.
It's really fucking pathetic when you read the comments to his post. They haven't been melodeath in over at least 15-16 years, how the fuck can people not move on, I see people all the time saying they only enjoy their early albums, while they don't realise that's only 6-7 years of their career compared to their 15years~ "after" they started to release so called bad albums.
Also Opeth, I like some of their stuff, but I don't know why but the acoustic singing parts are too much sometimes for me. The song April Ethereal is really damn nice, most of My Arms Your Hearse is good. Maybe cause Ander's co-produced and engineered it :>
Ayyy, only read his (eochaid's) entire post now. But I still say it's fine, if you want to bitch about something at least put effort in it. I already vomited around half past 0:00, but reading now how only4theweak had to just make a shot at The Truth for the millionth+one time almost made me throw up again. People bitch about long posts and then keep posting the same needless, mindless, hateful stuff. You still like The End, great, make a post about it, but why the fuck does it need to be said that The Truth is still a turd when no one fucking brought it up?!
This is my gripe with the majority of SC bashing. The absolutely pointless negativity is just getting to me. Even in real life, I just can't stand when average joes are complaining about the same fucking shit. Aaahhh this government, aaaaah not enough salary, aaaaah [insert gossip here about someone], zzzzzzzzzzzz. The endless, meaningless, mean shit towards things they have absolutely no control over. Yes, for you, SC was shit yesterday, is shit today and will be shit tomorrow. We know it without you bringing it up constantly. Like, even when a new song will surface, how about - and I know this is a far-fetched fantasy of mine - a.) you only talk about that song b.) if you want to rate it around past IF songs, how about you get further than SC?
I mean, we all fucking know, that whenever the next single from Battle gets released, the hate group's response will be one from these options:
- It's a very good track, actually! Unlike that fucking shit SC.
- It's quite decent. Definitely better than that fucking shit SC.
- It's so bad that it would fit right into that fucking shit SC.
Of course, when I dare to say anything positive about it, then I'm thin skinned, an apologist, a fanboy, not to mention if I type more than 4 sentences I'm also crazy as well, because people in this board have the mindset that there is no possible way one could not express his opinion in 4 sentences tops.
I mean, DE4life's anger and/or disappointment with SC and ASOP went so far he said those records had a bunch of shitty song titles. Just.... just think about that for a moment. How engulfed you have to be to say such an absolutely mind-numbing thing?
But the SC-hate is not even the biggest problem. Post Clayman records barely get any recognition except SOAPF, which is just funny to me because SOAPF is not that great, it's greatest quality in people's eyes that it's not ASOP (which was at least an interesting record, despite its flaws), while Clayman has a bunch of "sellout" songs, yet it's considered a classic.
My absolute favorite thing in this elitist mindset is the fact that IF's first records are absolutely meaningless and not even that great. Aside personal taste and their influence, it's nowhere near godlike status. Yes, there are timeless classics, like Metallica's self-titled album, Slayer's Reign In Blood, Nine Inch Nail's The Downward Spiral, Linkin Park's Hybrid Theory, and I deliberately not mentioning the "obvious" ones, like Black Sabbath, Pink Floyd, etc.The point is, all of these were extremely influential records for the music industry and to pop culture. But even if we shorten our perspective, and we are not looking for the most world dominating records and only judge them for how much these records meant to these bands and for their fans: Raining Blood, Enter Sandman, Hurt, One Step Closer. To just name one song of each of these records which became classics (worldwide too, but again, let's not go too far) and to this day are staples at live shows, and to this day, new or old fans, despite these bands changing their style too (some more than others, obviously) are digging it.
Now, of course, IF has a bunch of staples and fan-favorites too. Cloud Connected, The Quiet Place, My Sweet Shadow, Take This Life, Only For The Weak. None of them from the so called "undoubtedly best" records from them. I guess Colony has its title track and Embody, and the odd one out from the LS-TJR-Whoracle trio is Behind Space, being the sole song from that era that I guess we can call a classic. It is beyond me, because it is one of the worst songs I ever heard in my life, even on LS I could list three songs which are better, but oh well. Point is, TJR and Whoracle, as much as I actually dig them and as much as they were important for the melo-death scene, are just two dusty records from the past. And it doesn't matter if you think those records are 10/10, because it's not what IF is. Ever since Clayman (or Colony, but that's a different argument) IF finally found themselves and managed to make a name for themselves on the world stage. Having the attitude that TJR and Whoracle are above all and what made IF great, is like thinking that the only reason that a 30-year old, beautiful woman is rich and has a loving, beautiful family is because you dated her for 8 months back in high-school. Maybe those 8 months were the time of your life, and maybe it was great for both of you, and maybe you both learned an awful lot from it, which became handy later on, but that's all.
Liking old stuff does not make you or your taste superior in any way, and acting like they were more significant than they really were (yes, a jab at A88's list, but my impression is that many people would kneel and bend for TJR and Whoracle) is just plain ignorant.
edit: forgot to mention, that my only pet peeve with eochaid's fb post was his jabs at Jesper's grammar. That's not cool. He's not a native speaker, and you make spelling mistakes too.
