Is Graveland Racist?
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J.
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Graveland is pretty much the best thing ever along with lynching black people and shooting mexicans crossing into my beloved state and chili cheese fritos
The Ozzman
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Why not? Chinese people can't be racist towards blacks? Please explain.
It's hard for me to fathom how whites can be racist towards other races but minorities can't be racist to other minorities or even whites. It's like saying affirmative action isn't reverse discrimination towards white people
The Ozzman
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Okay, Phil Collins
What if the person couldn't swim? Isn't it their fault for puting themselves in that position? It's situational. You can't use a blanket analogy to analyze all analogies.
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The Ozzman
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no country for old wainds
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you can't do who in the what now
doing nothing is just as much of a choice as doing something obvs. in mort's scenario it's essentially just two forks in the road, you choose one or the other, one leads to the person's death and the other doesn't. whether or not the person deserves to drown is irrelevant, you still take on a degree of responsibility for it happening if you choose the first path - if you don't mind that responsibility because you think their drowning was a good thing or something then fair enough but that's not what we're talking about. this idea that you can 1) identify something as morally wrong, 2) have the opportunity to do something about it, and 3) do nothing without being responsible for that wrong's perpetuation at all, is just absurd rationalising.
imo you should all be like me and admit that your inaction is due to a lack of morals and/or balls instead of getting on your high horses
Jimmy... Dead.
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Mort, wouldn't that mean you're as guilty (in some aspect - animal rights, child labor etc) as the rest of us?
Mort Divine
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In some aspects, yes.
In China they could be. Not here. (Institutional, before anyone gets feisty over definitions) Racism necessitates structural power. Whites are the only social group that hold any of this power in the US and majority of Western nations. Therefore, no minorities cannot be racist. Prejudice and racism are not one and the same.
Racism is SIGNIFICANTLY more dangerous.
As far as affirmative action being "reverse discrimination towards white people..."
You know who the #1 beneficiary of AA happens to be?
White women.
Whites haven't had to deal with centuries of disenfranchisement like blacks in America did. Whites didn't find themselves on the short side of homestead acts, they didn't find themselves facing employment discrimination based on the color of their skin, they didn't have a lack of material wealth to hand down through the generations, etc.
Affirmative action is meant to bridge the gap that white privilege created - not to coddle white feelings
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Yes, I was mocking that mentality.
Of course you would say that. You cannot redefine racism to exclusively mean "institutional racism" and expect everyone else to exclude other perfectly reasonable definitions. When people play that card, it's almost always to excuse their own bigotry. Plenty of white people lack institutional power, so according to you and your ilk, they can't be racist. The KKK hasn't had institutional power in a long while, so I guess they aren't a racist group.
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Institutionalized racism does not benefit the average white person. For instance, I do not gain anything from black offenders receiving harsher sentences than white offenders, although I'm sure the prison-industrial complex is pleased with this arrangement.
Whites don't benefit from it, minorities (or majorities, in some states) just get fucked over because of it.
Mort Divine
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Are you really sure you don't?
You don't benefit from being statistically less likely to be pulled over by police officers for suspicion of drug possession? Despite being statistically more likely to actually possess drugs than a black individual (Regardless of you using/not using drugs)
Shit, the very fact that black offenders receive harsher sentences DOES benefit whites over blacks. Are you serious on this point?
If you were to commit a crime the very fact that you would receive a lesser sentence is well guess what ... kinda a benefit.
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Are you fucked in the head? That's like saying I would benefit from the neighbors' house burning down, in that my own place didn't burn down.
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