Gimme a break Coop, admit it, their biggest success has always been with Joey Belladonna. They still gave no legitamatly (spell check) believable reason for them booting Joey out of the band, and it ain't about his drinking because Joey took care of that problem. I can understand your frustration, Coop. I get mad at people making fun of H2O's Go album because it was too "Poppy" or 7 Seconds' more mellow albums. But the problem is is that John Bush just doesn't fit the suit. When he joined, the edge in which the rest of them cherished just disappeared. It is now more stoner rock than thrash. So I am sorry if I have my own opinion but I am sticking to it.