Michael Jackson R.I.P.

[LeSedna]

I discovered it waiting in the queue of a disco here. I checked on the internet at once, and the first official source in french was 8mn ago at that time. It made me think that the whole western world was aware of the news in a few minutes. Made me get the feeling artists have more power than any other men.

 

[aramism]

http://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendId=42291868&blogId=497035326


great read. just like i said, he was unfortunately surrounded by " vampires and leeches " as per lisa marie pressley...

very misguided financially and unfortunately medically i guess too. i could see this being the straw that broke the camels back as far a heavy investigation against the "culture" of prescription meds and anti depressants and painkillers. kind of like in the movie "runaway jury" there could be some dustin hoffman equivalent who uses this is a springboard to a bigger issue.

he was a very like "weak" guy and a big kid and that was the only thing i could say he was guilty of, he had that peter pan complex. hanging around studio 54, the china club, every club in la, hanging out with celebrities and the "la scum" of the 80's and then living in the fallout of the 80s in the 90s and subsequently the 00's took a toll on him.


no more point talking about this, it's really just beating a dead horse. its sad that this thread had to turn into defending MJ when it should of just been a place for musicians and production "connoisseurs" to share their thoughts about positive things and just say a little "e-tribute" to one of the biggest icons of the 20th century.

ps - to all the metalheads who were disgusted about that guys article about dimebag that prompted the machine head song, you know how we MJ fans feel at your insults against MJ.

ps 2 - addendum to lisa marie pressley myspace great msnbc vid: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036677/vp/31574845#31574845

 

[GarethSE]

ps - to all the metalheads who were disgusted about that guys article about dimebag that prompted the machine head song, you know how we MJ fans feel at your insults against MJ.

pretty much this
and dead horse = beaten by me, so im backin out of this topic now

 

[Metaltastic]

Forgive me, but to what article about Dimebag are you referring aramisim?

 

[GarethSE]

Forgive me, but to what article about Dimebag are you referring aramisim?

After dimebag's death, there was some article posted up on some guy's blog that really lay into dimebag.
It hit robb flynn so hard he felt the need to write a response
the article's all over the place, shouldnt be hard to find
and that article is what spawned Aesthetics of Hate
"you spit in the eye of a dead man's face" etcetc

 

[aramism]

metaltastic, did a google search and couldn't find the original article but one of the first links contained the whole article copied into a facebook group


http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=2386267746&ref=share

 

[Metaltastic]

Thanks dude, this should be interesting!

 

[Metaltastic]

Actually nevermind, not even gonna bother, it's just some waste-of-life conservative whining about the evils of metal, I was hoping for something at least a little more original! Amazing that Flynn even cared enough to read it all (I stopped after he mentioned all the metalheads at the vigil being "barbarians" ), but I guess he was just pissed in general and needed to vent, not like I can blame him!

 

[J the TyranT]

Hey can you guys point me to Starbucks? I wanna drink my coffee and jam my new JAckson cd. You're right, he's fucking amazing. What was I EVER thinking by having an opinion about general pop music and the media hype machine forcing shit down our throughts? Time for jagerbombs! Cmon guys!

Im buying a chimp

 

[GarethSE]

You're quite the cunt J, I have to admit.

 

[aramism]

right

 

[J the TyranT]

I wanna join the clan of guys who all have the same opinion. Cant see why that's not allowed. Want some McDonald's?

 

[J the TyranT]

Holy shit. In all honesty.. you guys are acting like fucking Jermaine and LaToya. Ooooooh I said I dont give a fuck about some media driven pop monstrosity... somehow Im some massive asshole for having an actual opinion on this bullshit scene. Something's big so it MUST be good? Harry Potter is literary gold now... right next to Hawthorne and Kerouac... because the sales numbers are AMAZING.

Spider Man 3 pwns Deer Hunter, this just in.

Im saying... the guy gets way too much credit and Im a bit tired of being TOLD... by the MASSES what's the big cool shit going on.. and Jackson was ALWAYS in that group. Dont see whats so fucking hard to grasp about that relatively simple concept. Fucking whiners, man... dig on it.

 

[P-E]

J, if you don't like Michael Jackson that's okay, but don't talk shit about the dead man he is. And how the fuck do we care if he's pop, if the MASSES like him... we just like him too and it ain't written anywhere we can't.
Why prevent us to show respect to him if we want to? If you don't think he does, it's fine with me, but YOU, don't whine about it.

Thanks.

 

[aramism]

yeah seriously. so JUST because something is big its bad. its a double standard you speak of. very backwards thinking. thats my problem with people like you. for example i don't look like a metalhead, and shit i'm not a metalhead, yet i like metal. but i like pop (good pop - see: mainstream music pre 2000) jazz some hip hop classical country whatever is good. i like linkin park, i like nickelback, i like fallout boy, shit i like sheila e and lionel ritchie. but i also like vader, and nile, and testament, and gojira, and liquid tension experiment, and oscar peterson, and blotted science, whatever... and you choose to denounce something because a lot of people like it. so automatically because 100 million people bought thriller, it is jammed down their throats. god forbid its actually great music and maybe thats why people like it. and only music that 500 people like is good.


hey guess what usually when a lot of people like something, there's a reason for it. and hats off to whoever it is and you have to give them credit. this is a winners mentality, what you speak of is a losers mentality.

no one says spiderman 3 is better than deer hunter, or harry potter is better than doesteovsky. but if jk rowling or whatever the name is made more money by writing a stupid book than albert camus did writing "the stranger" then good for her, she did something right. in the case of MJ, he wasn't just a money maker, but there was a reason he was who he was. was he hyped to the max in the 80's? probably.

but was he a great singer, a great entertainer and an icon in pop culture? absolutely. whether you personally like his music or not, it shouldn't make a difference. you could have avoided all this by saying "i never liked his music but he accomplished a lot. not losing sleep over his loss but rip"

plenty of people have said that. bringing in media jamming hype into peoples throats has no relevance whatsoever. perhaps you have some insecurities or venetta against "pop culture" or maybe you're jsut looking for attention or need to be "that guy"

or maybe (like i said a few pages ago) you're one of theses guys:

 

[J the TyranT]

Not really. You guys just missed my original point about all things vanilla being just that. I can exclaim as much just fine without people losing their shit about it, as they did. So had anybody just taken that for what it was, well then...

You're looking way too deep into psychology in thinking about mentalities and all that shit. The initial point was that I think the guy's a clown... overrated as fuck... and overhyped as fuck. I dont see why I have to say that in some graceful manner when I dont feel like it without people losing their shit like they've lost some personal friend.

 

[Chryst Krispies]

I FUCKING LOVE LTE!!!!

I've had a few to drink which is rare for me, so I love everything right now.

I love music. I just tripped out to Pull me Under driving home. I was fuckin living inside the riffz in my fucking car.

It's cool J, I backed you up earlier. If you wanna saty hgow much you don't like MJ, that's fucking xcool. I like some of the music I guess, but I don't really like the man in the mirror. LOLZ!

Differing opinions is cool, It's like the Yin and Yang. GET THE FUCK INTO IT.

 

[P-E]

What if I think Dimebag's overrated as fuck and overhyped as fuck? I still respect the man he was, and I still respect the people that (to a certain extent) worship him. Anyway I'm sorry to get into a stupid Internet fight, and I hope this nonsense will stop (instead of me feeding it).

EDIT :

Differing opinions is cool, It's like the Yin and Yang. GET THE FUCK INTO IT.

Totally true. As the rappers say : PEACE.

 

[Metaltastic]

I FUCKING LOVE LTE!!!!

I've had a few to drink which is rare for me, so I love everything right now.

I love music. I just tripped out to Pull me Under driving home. I was fuckin living inside the riffz in my fucking car.

It's cool J, I backed you up earlier. If you wanna saty hgow much you don't like MJ, that's fucking xcool. I like some of the music I guess, but I don't really like the man in the mirror. LOLZ!

Differing opinions is cool, It's like the Yin and Yang. GET THE FUCK INTO IT.

Posts like this just make this whole crazy thing we call life worthwhile

 

[GarethSE]

the main thing that annoyed me was all the
LOL WANT SOME STARBUCKS?! LOL shit
We've all had our phase of being 13 and hating the big corporations
We're all old enough here to have gotten past that phase and gotten to the point of apathy about all that shit, because its not as if its going to stop existing if a few of us stop drinking their fucking coffee

but anyway, im crashing