Movies

[J.]

Fahrenheit 9/11
Exactly why was this lamblasted again? Do people not like to hear facts and the truth? Moore did nothing else than report Bush's strong ties to the Bin Laden family, Saudi Arabia, and companies like Halliburton and Enron.

He also interviewed the mother of a dead soldier. Again, why the criticism?

He asks congressman to enlist their children in the army since they voted to go to war. Every congressman looked at Moore like he was a lunatic.

Granted, this documentary paints a very anti-Bush picture, but again, it was all fact!


The Hazing
Typical (late 20's) college students stuck in a haunted house with an evil soul casting spells and possessing the students. Not horrible, not great. At least the two hot females showed their boobs.

 

[JayKeeley]

Fahrenheit 9/11
Exactly why was this lamblasted again?

From our Faranheit 9/11 thread...

I just saw Faranheit 9/11 tonight for the first time, and I went into the film thinking this Moore guy likes to glamourize and spin, etc, but I wonder who's accusing him of that, because all I saw was a massive collection of news articles and interviews? This isn't Moore telling you what's going on from his mouth whatsoever, he's not reading you a story, this is excerpts of real news footage.

Honestly, after seeing this film, I'm not sure how Bush & Cheney are even allowed to run for office again. Their background ties to the Saudis and the oil/construction companies such as Haliburton is all just daylight robbery, white collar crime at its finest. I'm glad John Edwards got into the Haliburton debate with Cheney, leaving him speechless, but you know, watching this film just shocks me that Bush even has a fighting chance in the next election. On principle alone, he should be standing trial right now, and yet there are still people out there, with access to all this information in this free society, chanting "four more years".

 

[JayKeeley]

Moore wants to air Faranheit 9/11 on pay-per-view the night before the election...

 

[J.]

Fuck PPV, put it on Fox, er nevermind. How about CBS!?!

 

[jimbobhickville]

Well, while everything was technically true, he did slant everything to be anti-Bush, mostly with his narration. It all had a very narrowminded slant to it. For example, he criticizes Bush for finishing reading a book to an elementary school class after he's heard the news about the attack. I think Moore wanted him to run out of the room and board Air Force One right away, but what good would that have done? He didn't know what was going on yet and I'm sure he didn't want to cause a panic. It's the little things like that that were just petty grievances Michael Moore had with Bush that lessened the professionalism of the whole thing.

That said, it made me hate Bush more than I already did, so I guess it was effective.

 

[NAD]

Haiku Tunnel

Movie about some dude that spends his days as an office temp trying to work on his novel. Basically shows him fucking around and up for his first week at a real job, good stuff.

 

[IOfTheStorm]

I saw "Battle Royale 2" .. dont know if are there any fans of the first one here..
This one was GOOD, yet "overloaded" with political and social messages, that would have been more convincing, if the actors could .. act.

 

[NAD]

Heh, there are a few massive fans of the first one 'round here. They are also massive enemies of the second, myself included. :Spin:

 

[IOfTheStorm]

Well it wasnt as shocking and good as the first one, but it was .. "nice".

 

[NAD]

I didn't like the characters very much, I think JayKeeley said something like "I felt terrible for the kids in the first, but in the second was waiting for them all to get picked off." I agree with that.

But no, not a flat out terrible movie, just not really incredible like the first.

 

[spaffe]

Saw Gummo this weekend and what a depressing movie that was. It's about some people (rednecks) in a small town in southern USA who spend their time beeing stupid and doing shit. Their lives were so pointless and shitty that I got mad/depressed when I remembered that there are actually people who are and spend their lives like this.

 

[J.]

As opposed to going to a pointless job day after day that benefits other people?

Just playing devil's advocate.

 

[NAD]

Heehee. I remember reading a review of Gummo, decided it sounded way too depressing for me. Isn't it compared to Slacker? I still want to see that one.

Most disturbing movie I've ever seen: Vulgar. Glad I watched it once, probably never will again.

 

[Russell]

I just got sent a movie called Kichiku Dai Enkai to review. From what I'v read this isn't going to be pretty, has anyone heard about it? From 97, apparently a "message" film using exploitation as a vehicle?

Anywho, finally just got around to seeing Farenheit 9/11, and Oldboy again tomorrow

 

[jimbobhickville]

So, I know some folks have gay love with Ju On around here, so are y'all gonna see The Grudge? It was done by the same dude and he was given complete control, so it's supposed to be pretty much just an English version of the original. I wanna see the original, too, but I'm definitely going to see the remake this weekend.

 

[JayKeeley]

Shame you're seeing the remake before the original. You should always try to avoid that if possible, although this is interesting because it's the same director.

I would like to see The Grudge actually. I do really like Ju On, but I have to admit, I saw it again recently and it is so disjointed that it becomes a mass of confusion (particularly in regards to timelines). The Japs have this thing for warped story arcs, and so I might end up liking this Americanized version of what the same director wants us to see, and hopefully it might make more sense. I haven't seen the TV versions and I understand they are significantly better.

Of course there are some things that just don't work as well when brought over, such as The Ring. And I cannot believe that the US sequel will be anything like Ringu 2, which was just an odd-ball of hysteria & extremity.

 

[J.]

I thought the American The Ring was actually pretty cool. Haven't seen the Jap version.

 

[NAD]

I prefer the American version of The Ring.

 

[spaffe]

As opposed to going to a pointless job day after day that benefits other people?

Just playing devil's advocate.

I think I would prefer that to their lives

 

[jimbobhickville]

I too prefer the American version of the Ring, but I saw it before the original, so maybe I'm biased. I just felt like it built the suspense a lot better and the tension stayed more consistently thick throughout than the Jap version.

As for Ju On, I'd like to see the original, and a local indie theater is going to be showing it, but not until the 29th, so I'll probably see the remake first.