Originally posted by Sydo
Just watch The Decline Of Western Civilization Pt II.
It showcases a whole heap of bands who honestly thought they were gonna make it. After watching it youll understand why metal died, and thank god they didnt make it!
Its really quite funny Trent knows what Im talking about, but will probably disagree.
When a band starts caring more about hair, makeup and posing, than beer and music its all over. (unless its Kiss)
Nah I agree, I see what you mean. I wouldn't go as far as to say that glam killed it though. Although there were a bunch of crap bands coming out around 88/89, there were PLENTY of awesome ones as well. The scene died because of an
overload of it I think, there were just too many. But it certainly wasn't the music that killed it. In fact it was glam that made metal thrive so much in the mid to late 80s and made it so huge. Most kids wouldve gotten into metal through the videos by Crue, Poison and Twisted Sister then moved onto true heavy metal bands. By the way... Odin are actually pretty damn good! Same with London! They are just wankers hahaha.
Rob: Yep thats the one, its Paul Stanley from Kiss on the bed hahahahahah! He's also like that in Kiss Exposed!
Spawny:
I think you've missed the point of my post. All I was trying to say in my post was that I think it's cool that a new heavy band is playing rock & roll and not trying to be serious. I never said they were great like you said I did, I said they are not my thing and I don't like the vocals, I just think it's cool that they are doing nothing but having a good time. About the clothes thing, I again I never said "wow they are such a good band coz they dress like Motley Crue"... firstly I was just making an observation that they were influenced by Shout era Crue (that was the original point of the post, the Crue connection), and then it just also got linked into part of how I think it's good that bands are doing shock rock again and having a cool image because I think how a band looks is important in rock music.
Also I never said they were nu-metal did I. I was very conscious to say that they were a part of the new heavy rock scene, which they are. Their target audience is obviously the heavy rock crowd who listens to stuff from nu-metal to industrial to hardcore, and isn't a band's audience the one thing that defines what scene they are a part of? I never said they were a nu-metal band I said they were part of the current heavy rock scene. And as far as the thing about saying they are better than Fear Factory etc just from one song, I can say that because I HAVE heard full albums by Fear Factory (Obsolete, Demanufactore and the really crappy new one) because remember I am 20 and therefore lots of my friends play it at parties so I hear it all the time. Machine Head, Slipknot, Disturbed, Hatebreed, all of them I am extremely familiar with their stuff. And the reason I can say I like Murderdolls better is not because they have Motley Crue style costumes, it's because they are playing rock & roll. One song, 10 songs, doesn't matter... if a band is playing fun rock & roll influenced music rather than trying to be a musical version of Blade Runner and trying to make statements about technology vs man and the future and all that shit, then yes I can safely say I like them better.
I don't listen to music because I like the kick drum sound on the album or I think there is a cool drum fill or "ohh listen to that pull-off there". I choose my music based on its vibe and how it makes me feel and the type of place it takes me to. And I like music that is "nothin' but a good time" to quote Poison haha.
NOW do you understand the point of my post? Basically alll I said was 2 things: a) I noticed that their costumes are very similar to Motley Crue's Shout costumes; b) It's good to see what I call "the grunge disease" in rock music (that being the whole music has to be serious and say something and not be shallow and image isn't important etc etc etc) thing disappearing and bands emerging that are putting on a show and having fun.
Fuck man I don't even like Murderdolls and I'm having this whole conversation about it!
I think their music still sucks! (Which proves I don't just care about what they wear coz I like what they wear and I don't like the band!) I'm just glad heavy music is starting to turn back in that direction. I'd still rather listen to
Shout At The Devil or
Open Up & Say..Ahh! anyday and wouldn't bother spending $25 on Murderdolls when they are still 672065235 great albums from the '80s out there that I don't own and will enjoy alot more.
Geeez talk about missing the point.
